We need better management information. A lot of the JSR-77 stuff is useful
information, the only problem was with how it was integrated, not really
tested, and not understood by the people working on the core stuff into
which this foreign code was interjected.


Where applicable this should be integrated via interceptors and/or aspects that
emit JMX notifications on which JSR-77 bean may be created. So the first
step is to replace the existing JSR-77 stuff with what we actually need to do
management and support of JBoss. For caches, pools, invocations, etc. there
needs to be low impact asynchronous events that allow for collection of this
information and rehashing statistically and historically.

I want this working in 3.2 as well so where the aspect stuff cannot be used
alternative approaches are needed.

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Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
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From: "David Jencks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Management layer


> Before you do anything to the jsr-77 stuff, I'd like to know if we plan to
> continue to implement it.  Although I personally never got why it is useful
> under any circumstances, I'm willing to believe e.g. marc if he says we
> should keep it.  anyway,
> 
> -- if we plan to implement it, I suggest moving directly to an mbean
> interceptor/aspect based implementation where we keep the "management"
> module more or less the same but replace the stuff spread all over the rest
> of the code with interceptors.
> 
> -- if we plan to not implement it, ... remove it all.
> 
> I think even a somewhat lame implementation will provide an easier base for
> improvement than starting over from scratch.  Do we have anyone interested
> in working on it?  There was a guy helping andy for a while.
> 
> 
> thanks
> david



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