---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [jos-general] Re: [jdistro-devel] Where do we go ? Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 23:29:53 +0200 From: Christian Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gilbert Carl Herschberger II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It is rare and precious to find someone capable of bringing people > together. Are you that person? I think so. Many of us think we have > different goals, and need to travel in different directions... Thank you, I feel honoured :-) At first, one question: Is there a reason you didn't send your email to the lists? I didn't find any confidential things. On the contrary, it contains good and important proposals! Right. My honest statement: 1 I think that such an effort is needed. 2 I could offer to create that project, preferrably on Savannah. 3 I offer to create an easy website (similar to http://www.cybop.net). 4 To raise a mailing list. 5 For the actual work, that is integration of our projects, I don't have the time right now. I am currently writing my dissertation (12 months), already maintaining two Free Software projects (you know what that means), have 6 students for diploma works, a "real-life" project etc. 6 Nevertheless, the super-project mailing list alone might be worth it. The work "on putting the results of these projects together into something people can use" sounds quite much like packaging for Debian. I could ask for an interested developer in their lists. Most don't like Java that much because it is not "free" but somebody might have an interest. > A new project should be focused on integration and feedback. We need to > explain to the specialists how they can make their project more compatible > with what other people are doing. This is exactly what the Debian people are doing! I revise my statement from above and suggest to first ask in the Debian project before creating our own. However, a mailing list may still be useful. > What is the name of the new project? and its mailing list? How about > something that plays on where we come from? Java United Application Network > (JUAN). Or, Open Common API For Existance (OpenCAFE). Could it be something more general, without the name "Java", too? It might eventually go a different way (you also use C++ right now and I plan some XML-based language; others were talking of Jython). Something around the term "System", because that is what we all are trying to build? "UniSys"? But isn't that an existing company? I guess most of you wouldn't like "CYBORG" = CyberneticOrganism :-) (simply a system built after the principles of nature). > There are jars, wars, ears. But I would like a set of Java applications > that all deploy the same way. And no, WebStart is not it. Your API, > framework and class library should be deployed differently than a Java > application. I would like to put class libraries into a class library > archive and applications into an application archive. I would like to do > with my compiled code what I already do with compiled C/C++ code. I want > different deployment for shared libraries (.so and .dll) and executable > programs (.exe). More on that later. I didn't think much about deployment yet. In GNU/Linux, applications spread their information to various directories: /usr, /usr/lib, /etc, /home. As everything, this has advantages and drawbacks. A single .jar with all needed data inside is also not bad, it has clarity. But then using shared information from other directories is difficult. Another point is the possible XML-based programming language I think about. Do you think it would be performant enough when being interpreted as is? No need for compilation then. No need for packaging? Don't know. Christian ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing & more. Download & eval WebKing and get a free book. www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 _______________________________________________ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
