Your project reminds me of a product called "Out-of-the-Box" from EJB Solutions (www.ejbsolutions.com). This is a distribution of Open Source projects for Java and LAMP developpers. It's free but I think it's not Open Source.
-- Nicolas Grilly Garden - Marketing pilot� par l'information Tel/Fax +33 1 56 72 21 32 - Mobile +33 6 03 00 25 34 - Web www.garden-paris.com > -----Message d'origine----- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > Christian Heller > Envoy� : vendredi 11 juillet 2003 17:20 > � : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : [Scope-dev] Collaboration [3] > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Re: [jos-general] Re: [jdistro-devel] Where do we go ? > Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:46:59 -0400 > From: Gilbert Carl Herschberger II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Christian Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 11:29 PM 7/2/03 +0200, you wrote: > >At first, one question: Is there a reason you didn't send > your email to > >the lists? I didn't find any confidential things. On the > contrary, it > >contains good and important proposals! > > I didn't sent my e-mail directly to the mailing lists because > I thought I might be asking a lot of you. I did not know how > you would feel about that. Now that we agree something must > be done, should you post my message (and > yours) on the various mailing lists? I think you might first > do a little research on the Debian effort. Gather the facts > before presenting it to others. If another project is already > trying to do this, I would like to know more about it. > > I would like to install a Java-oriented--optimized and > enhanced--distribution of GNU/Linux. That would be very > useful to me, too. Is that a goal for Debian? > > Am I speaking of a distribution project? Hmm, maybe I am. My > very first goal for the JOS Project was to provide the JOS > Technical Edition, a distribution of JOS-related stuff. I > made it easier to find stuff. Why? I didn't want others to > have as much difficulty as I did. Certainly, a distribution > project could distribute a collection of "friendly" > applications that are designed to work together. As a > super-project, we might work to "improve" or "upgrade" > existing Java applications so that everything can work > together. We can improve the out-of-box experience. > > Then again, maybe I'm not. As you may have heard, most of the > JOS software does not work together. Isn't that sad? There > are lots of little incompatibilities. > > But of course, all /my/ stuff works together. ;) > > When distributing the files that other people made, I could > do very little to convince them to change their product so > that it worked with other products. I am convinced that this > might be where Java technology suffers the most. It is so > easy to write a Java application that cannot run alongside > other Java applications. But I should be able to run all Java > applications side by side without such incompatibilities. We > have an amazing class loader mechanism that few people are > putting to good use. We have an amazing namespace mechanism > so that different applications don't need to use the same namespace. > > I would like to help define what it takes to build, not just > a Java application that works, but a Java application that > works with other Java applications. Could this be such an > opportunity? Is this the right time? > > This is vaguely familiar. It reminds me of the RedTea project > on sourceforge.net that set out to build a Java equivalent of > RPM, the RedHat Package Manager. I haven't heard from them in > a while. It was "red" because of RedHat. It was "tea" in > response to Java (coffee). The idea was that, with an > equivalent of RPM, Java products could be distributed similar > to the way products are distributed on Linux. The community > wasn't ready for yet another RPM. It seems that it might be > better to determine how Java applications might be tested for > "compatibility" and help authors distribute their products > using RPM. Maybe distribution is a part of it. > > Let's say you wanted the latest version of every Java product > on sourceforge.net. How would you do it? Get a distributor. A > distributor involves people from many projects. They ask > authors to build an RPM for each product. They mirrors the > RPM in a central location, hopefully taking care only to > introduce stable combinations of products, giving you > one-stop shopping. And hopefully, taking care of any > licensing issues. (1) Is every Java product available as an > RPM? (2) Has anyone volunteered to be a distributor? > > Wow! I didn't realize how strongly I felt about this. As it > should be, RedHat is an expert in the distribution of Linux, > not Java. Who is an expert in the distribution of Java > products? Is anyone? > > Thanks, > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft > Error proof Web apps, automate testing & more. > Download & eval WebKing and get a free book. > www.parasoft.com/bulletproofapps1 > _______________________________________________ > Scope-dev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/s> cope-dev > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
