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Adrian Brock commented on JBAS-1300:
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This is the wrong place for this argument...

But, here is one example where I complained "I've said this many times 
before..."
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=44218&start=20

and here's a couple of threads where these issues keep popping up
(there are plenty of others including a discussion I remember with you
but I couldn't easily find using search - it might not have been in the 
forums?).
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=54737
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=53157

And for reference here's some discussions back when HAJMS was first
implemented and why HAIL was wrong:
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=38189
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=42786
There are plenty of similar discussions in the both the dev and user forums.

Just to repeat my objections in plain terms:
If we are going to implement transparent failover for HAJMS it cannot
just be a best effort.
People use JMS for reliable messaging. If they configure guaranteed 
only once delivery they expect exactly that.


> Non-Remote JMS HA
> -----------------
>
>          Key: JBAS-1300
>          URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-1300
>      Project: JBoss Application Server
>         Type: Feature Request
>   Components: JMS service
>     Versions: JBossAS-4.0.1 Final, JBossAS-3.2.6 Final
>     Reporter: Andrew Oliver
>     Assignee: Scott M Stark

>
> Original Estimate: 1 week
>         Remaining: 1 week
>
> It should be possible to use JMS on all servers in a cluster with HA enabled. 
>  Meaning:
> 1. Database as a store.  Everyone node uses shared DB.
> 2. JMS_MESSAGES table includes node name
> 3. In the event of group membership changes another node picks up the old 
> node's messages
> 4. JMS Client proxy autofails to another node

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