Sure, I do this also; but: (1) I prefer not adding brand new features in a point release, if possible. (2) The query parser re-work represents a significant change in the code-base, which I'd also prefer to not include in a point release.
Another option, I guess, is to cut a 3.2 final after this last feature needed for EJB3, and then immediately start on 3.3... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:21 PM To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 Steve Ebersole wrote: > This goes back to the previous discussion sometime last week. > > JBoss itself *should* keep bundling 3.1.x - preferably 3.1.3 as soon as > I release it today/tomorrow; that is the stable release cycle. But that > screws EJB3 for the previously mentioned reasons. > > So what's the solution? > > Here's the roadmap: > http://opensource2.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH?report=co > m.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel > > As you can see, I am nowhere near even a beta according to any known > definition of beta of which I am aware. > What exactly is preventing a 3.2 FINAL and deferring bugs/features until 3.2.1? I do this with EJB3 all the time. If there is a date I have to make, I drop bugs/features from the release to make the date, or move the date if this isn't possible. Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dimitris Andreadis > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:54 PM > To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 > > > Exactly. Something stable, that can be tested with 4.0.4.CR2 (which is > delayed until Friday 24th or Monday 27th max), that satisfies Bill, and > won't require an immediate 4.0.4.SP1 release for fixes :) > > There are many-many people waiting for 4.0.4 for quite some time and we > are already delayed, so please try to get a stable release out. Users > won't like at all running jboss 4.0.4 on a hibernate alpha. > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Bill Burke >>Sent: 20 March, 2006 20:45 >>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >> >>we just need something stable for hibernate in 4.0.4 GA. >> >>Steve Ebersole wrote: >> >>>Well, its *possible* to have "a final" release whenever I want ;) >>> >>>But at a bare minimum there is one more feature that EJB3 >> >>will require >> >>>which still needs to be implemented; and it is an ugly one. >> >> I need to >> >>>release 3.1.3 today/tomorrow (this needs to be done for reasons >>>extraneous to this discussion). I can then come back to >> >>work on this >> >>>particular feature. All that I can get done by next week. >>> >>>But that is not all I had initially targeted for 3.2 final >> >>(nor even >> >>>beta). And I do not like leaving off planned features just >> >>to get to >> >>>a >>>3.2 final. >>> >>>For me it comes down to whether this is a planned "final >> >>release" for >> >>>EJB3. If so, I guess I could be persuaded to cut a 3.2 final after >>>implementing the above mentioned feature and then start on 3.2.1 or >>>whatever. >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>Dimitris Andreadis >>>Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM >>>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >>> >>> >>>I love those dependencies ;) >>> >>>Is it possible to have a final next week ? >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>Steve Ebersole >>>>Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:33 >>>>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >>>> >>>>No way I'll have a 3.2 final this week ;) >>>> >>>>And it is not a simple matter of re-target for 4.0.5. EJB3 >> >>relies on >> >>>>changes made in the current alphas of 3.2 due to the latest >> >>changes in >> >>>>the spec (specifically the >>>>joinTransaction() stuff)... >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>Dimitris Andreadis >>>>Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:24 AM >>>>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >>>> >>>> >>>>But you need to get your changes with 4.0.4.CR2 (due out this >>>>week) so they get tested! >>>> >>>>After CR2 you'll need to target 4.0.5 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >>Behalf Of >> >>>>>Dimitris Andreadis >>>>>Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:09 >>>>>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>3rd April (give or take) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> >>>>Behalf Of >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Steve Ebersole >>>>>>Sent: 20 March, 2006 19:03 >>>>>>To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>Subject: [JBoss-dev] 4.0.4 >>>>>> >>>>>>I am trying to nail down a short-term release schedule for >>>>> >>>>>Hibernate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>3.2.x. Due to some of the changes made there >>>> >>>>specifically for EJB3 >>>> >>>> >>>>>>persistence support, I need to have a stable version of 3.2 done >>>>>>before AS goes 4.0.4 as 4.0.4 will ship with 3.2.x moving forward. >>>>>> >>>>>>Is there an anticipated release date for 4.0.4 GA at this point? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking >>>> >>>>scripting >>>> >>>> >>>>>>language that extends applications into web and mobile >>>>> >>>>>media. 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