> >     I am connected with the Enhydra project, but do have a couple
> > of points of information. Rickard is correct about the current
> > (released) state of JOnAS, however, JOnAS has joined forces with
> > the Enhydra project to create Enhydra Enterprise. This is a
> > completely different animal: first of all the architecture is
> > based around a small, high quality, "kernel" called the
> > multiserver. This server provides an interface for managed
> > services (EMS). Each service can be used independently. JOnAS is
> > being split into 3 EMS services: transaction, EJB container and
> > database manager. This is in addition to the webcontainer,
> > naming, messaging, management, logging, etc, provided by the
> > Enhydra team. Each of these services provides a JMX MBean for
> > management. The idea is that the services will be replaceable so
> > that is the JOnAS EJB container is not suitable you could add in
> > a suitably modified eBoss EJB container after all, eBoss does use
> > the JOnAS transaction manager code.

Hi, 

thanks for the information indeed Paul, it is good to have it directly
from the horse's mouth.  
With respect to Bull, we have tremendous respect for Gerard Vendome and
his crew and we think you were wise to join forces with such a team. <g>

With respect to the container, jBoss is a 3rd generation container,
JOnAS for all the code they did never really investigated the container
notions (what still compiled at deployment time and implemented in
stubs? also from recent discussions on "passivation" I see that there is
some way to go). 

BullSoft's JTA/JTS server is a legacy implementation.  Back when Assaf
Arkin from Exolab was working with jBoss to provide an integration of
JOnAS Tx, we were slowly reaching the conclusion that it needed a
complete rewrite a "webbish" one.  JOnAS Tx might stay or might go, but
as Rickard pointed out and implemented we are pluggable :)

Now I am told that you built a solid JSP equivalent layer.  I will
encourage you to build a real framework.  That means a real integration
with a real container.  Right now you still a bit in the "spectator"
seats of J2EE (albeit a noisy one ;-).  You need to make a play in the
pure J2EE space and deep in it (EJB/JMS).   

Anyway, thanks for the information and good luck on the container


regards

marc 

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> 
> Thanks for this information! That was very interesting.
> 
> BTW, it's jBoss not eBoss :-)
> 
> Also, jBoss does not use the JOnAS tx code currently. I did my own
> simple tx mgr (not complete though) which is used currently. This might
> be changed to the JOnAS tx stuff later on, or not. We'll see how things
> turn out. Either way, it's pluggable :-)
> 
> /Rickard
> 
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