Playing devil's advocate here because I think the debate is important!

Yeah, installation of WebSphere Portal is complicated...the 11 disk thing bums 
be out.  I think that is the biggest complaint from IBM users (mine too).  
JBoss Portal was soooo easy to get going, that was very refreshing!

I don't find the support mechanism very cumbersome, in fact their patch 
delivery mechanism is very slick.  I like the idea of patching my installation 
vs replacing the install.  My biggest complaint is finding the patch I need or 
even knowing when a patch has been released.  I guess that could be a separate 
discussion.

The EJB3 feature is delivered via their "Feature Pack" mechanism.  If you have 
used WebSphere in the past, one of the huge complaints was that they were 
forever lagging in keeping up with the Java standards.  This new feature pack 
idea is how they plan on keeping their server line current, without having to 
move to a new version of the product.  Which is very appealing to the people 
that have dozens (or hundreds) of instances running.  I don't see this as a 
negative, but as an improvement on one of their previous shortcomings.  Only 
time will tell if addresses the issue at hand.

I'm not sure about bloated and slow, I guess we'd need to see some data on 
that.  WebSphere does have a larger footprint, but that alone does not mean 
bloated or slow.

Where is your area, because I'd love to get $200/hr!  My last two projects have 
been as consultants...one for WebSphere Portal, one for JBoss Portal.  My final 
rate to the client has been the same for both projects.  I know if you go to 
IBM directly they charge a premium.  Yes they have a huge consulting arm and 
you don't always get what you pay for.  I guess the message is to stay away 
from their consulting arm, there are plenty of other people to get consulting 
services from other than IBM.

As far as the codebase for IBM Portal, their first version (many years ago) was 
Jetspeed with IBM stuff on top.  That was long before JSR 168 (which they were 
the lead on the spec)...since then it has grown/changed dramatically.  Nobody 
in the industry is free from this practice, ask JBoss about their ESB.  

My experience with JBoss Portal has been very positive, as has my experience 
with WebSphere Portal.  There are positives and negatives to each...I will say 
this, in the open-source portal space, JBoss Portal seems to be the best.  I 
have tried (not delivered applications) Liferay and JetSpeed2.



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