Personally, (I like netbeans to) I'd hope that there will *not* be two efforts 
(not even a community one) just for the sake of having almost the same 
functionality in netbeans as there is in eclipse (jpdl wise). Just like I said, 
we could develop applications for Tibco Process Engine with their editor while 
doing the java stuff in I think it was even jBuilder. It's better to put most 
effort in one really great editor instead of having to mediocre ones (and here 
I exaggerate a little and do not want to put down Koens work *at all*)

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