M Arnold [https://community.jboss.org/people/m_arnold123] created the discussion

"Re: BPMN Timers - threads and persistence"

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I had a dig into jBPM source code, and found 
org.drools.time.impl.JDKTimerService.  It looks to me like jBPM5 uses the Java 
SE 6 
ExecutorService ( 
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ExecutorService.html
 
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ExecutorService.html). 
 

It would be an *extremely* useful enhancement if jBPM5 could be configured to 
use the Java EE TimerService.  ( 
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/5/tutorial/doc/bnboy.html 
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/5/tutorial/doc/bnboy.html).  I think using the 
ExecutorService will be fraught with problems in an HA + EJB3 environment.  If 
I can't find a solution I will have to create a custom workitemhandler just to 
allow processes to sleep for a configurable period of time (using the Timer 
Service) - but this obviously won't use the proper BPMN2 syntax.

I am left with the problem of how & when to dispose sessions, and how to load 
sessions from persistence when the cluster starts.  I thought I might try to 
use SFSBs to maintain the knowledge sessions while the cluster is up, and will 
use a @Startup SLSB to load the knowledge sessions from persistence which may 
have timers.  Has anyone had any luck doing anything similar?

I run each process in its own StatefulKnowledgeSession. If I call "pi = 
ksession.startProcessInstance(pi.getId());" can I use the pi.getState() to 
determine whether I can safely dispose the StatefulKnowledgeSession after the 
call?  ie. if getState == STATE_ABORTED || STATE_COMPLETED?  Any advice on how 
I can determine when a StatefulKnowledgeSession has no timers and therefore can 
be disposed?

This problems seem like they must be very common... hopefully someone has some 
advice!?
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