There are a number of ways of starting and ending a conversation

1) @Begin/@End
2) s:conversationPropagation
3) endConversation/beginConversation in pages.xml
4) endConversation in pageflows

Also, you should note that conversations are not propagated over non-faces 
request (i.e. clicking on a bookmarK)

I will often start a conversation upon entering an edit page, and end it when 
the user clicks Ok/Cancel.  I find I normally use begin rather join.

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