its getting late now but I seem to have got it working.  Changed several things 
and now quite sure now which combo made it all work.

1.  removed the 'jdbc/' prestring from the dataource, and persistence unit 
seemto help alot in the end.

I had a another @PersistenceContext (name='..') EntityManager em

but noticed that it should have been unitName = "..".  The name attribute 
refers to a jndi ref and i was getting alll sorts of exceptions.

however the long and short of now appears to work .

- how reproducable it'll be in the morning i dont know.

Goodnight 

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