This one time, at band camp, David Jencks said:

DJ>And the two largest ones:-))
DJ>
DJ>jboss and emacs/jdee/xdoclet
DJ>
DJ>jboss and vi
DJ>
DJ>david jencks

How about jboss and vim? 

Bruce 
-- 
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","<0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F9E<G)E=\$\!F<FEI+F-O;0\`\`");'



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