All and all I think JBoss has some unique strategic advantages over any other "FREE" application server including SunONE.
1) Our microkernel architecture with interceptor technology. Microkernel allows a stripped down application server with only the components you need. Also provides hot-deployment of any type of service/jar/EJB/WAR/EAR, something no other vendor provides. Net-boot and farm deployment are just great ideas that other vendors just don't have as well. Our interceptor technology and pluggable architecture make JBoss the preferred integration platform for ISV's and tool vendors. In fact, one of our partners, Gemstone, has found that our interceptor architecture on the client and server has allowed them to take their distributed caching integration with JBoss to the next level. 2) Our future vision. AOP and AOP services for plain old Java objects will bring J2EE to regular java classes and truly abstract out infrastructure services from business logic. AOP will bring new levels of integration and abstraction to regular users and especially ISVs and tool vendors that have never been seen before in an Application Server. No other vendor has such a clearcut vision of the future. In fact, IMHO, it seems that Sun, Bea, Oracle, and IBM are just riding out the J2EE bubble trying to milk as much money as possible. Nobody is innovating, except for us. 3) 95% of JBoss contributors are either a) using JBoss at their current company to build J2EE applications and services or b) doing support, consulting, and training with JBoss(JbossGroup). This is very unique since the needs and desires of customers using JBoss are instantly reflected in funtionality, features, and design of it. Typical advantages of OpenSource. While developers at Sun, Bea, Oracle, and IBM are sitting in their cubes isolated from the very users of their product, JBoss contributors are either actual users themselves, or consultants who are battling every day with support and feature requests. Real-world practical coding. 4) Typical OSS advantages. 1000 eyes debugging your code. Constant stream of fresh new ideas from energetic new OSS recruits. Best regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Bill Burke Chief Architect JBoss Group, LLC XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony > Tortallini > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss > > > Yeah, I'm the comment was in reference to iPlanet6.x because analysts are > always saying "SunONE Application Server" when they really mean > iPlanet6.x. > The negative comment represents one man's opinion and I agree > with you. They > are giving away SunONE Application Server to give the billing department a > rest, not because nobody would pay money for it. I think the same logic is > behind the inclusion of the "demo" version of weblogic. It's just a way of > offering the customer freedom of choice, but then you have to > fork over the > big bucks to use either of them in a production environment. Some people > have commented that IBM is killing them in the market place on > the high end > while JBoss is sweeping in on the flanks. I disagree, this is just Sun's > kind heart and concern for customers at work. > > "What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't > admit is that > the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're having > trouble even giving it away," said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at ZapThink > LLC., Cambridge, Mass." > > ep > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss > > > > This is a pretty slanted article because the SunONE 7.0 app server which > is being discussed wasn't even released until about a week after > the article > was published. SunONE 7.0 is what is bundled with Solaris 9. > It's probably > a safe bet Bloomberg was referring to iPlanet6.x and that he had no > knowledge or experience with SunONE 7 > > > > I'm a long time JBoss fan and user, but I've used the SunONE 7.0 server > too and it has come a long in addressing previous concerns and has know > become very WebLogic like in terms of ease of use, documentation and > support. It is a complete, easy to use and comprehensive j2ee solution. > > > > So, how can you say "summarized nicely" by JB? Have you tried it out > yourself? If not here's a link that may open your eyes and mind > (http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/appsrvr/home_appsrvr.html). Enjoy > > > > JohnH > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tony Tortallini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:41:54 -0800 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [JBoss-user] Sun One to Challenge JBoss > > > > > Another free J2EE server hits the street. > > > > > > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,767989,00.asp > > > > > > I think the difference between JBoss and Sun One is subtle > but important > and > > > summarized nicely by independent analyst Jason Bloomberg in that same > > > article: > > > > > > "What [Sun CEO Scott McNealy] either doesn't realize or won't admit is > that > > > the SunONE Application Server is of such poor quality that they're > having > > > trouble even giving it away," said Jason Bloomberg, an analyst at > ZapThink > > > LLC., Cambridge, Mass." > > > > > > Looks like Sun is going after a specific demographic: > business that want > > > something for free and don't necessarily care whether it > actually works. > The > > > problem is that market is relatively small: Bob in Kansas City and a > couple > > > of "chicks" running a website out of state prison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > > > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! > > > http://www.vasoftware.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > JBoss-user mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! > > http://www.vasoftware.com > > _______________________________________________ > > JBoss-user mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: > SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! > http://www.vasoftware.com > _______________________________________________ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _______________________________________________ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
