>   
> > - Struts v. 1.0.2    
> no, this is not necessary to build dbforms nor to use it.
> Am I right ????
>  t)

OK so we are down to the question of whether struts is currently needed
for dbforms.

My apps run without it (but I don't use all tags...).

Well, it's going to be removed as a necessity unless someone tells me
why it's needed or thier apps don't run with it (any testers out there?)
> 
> >  commons-lang    
> >  commons-util    
> 
> used internally by dbforms.
> 
 Henner also said the same

>  commons-lang: some needed helper methods, needed to run
> >  commons-util: some needed helper methods, needed to run
> 
> SO THEY WERE ADDED TO THE MS JUMPSTART DOCS ALSO.
> 
> BUT commons-util IS NOT IN CVS!!!
> 
In fact I wanted to put it there and at 
http://jdbforms.sourceforge.net/non-cvs/dependend/index.html, but
I COULD ONLY FIND: 
COMMONS-BEANUTILS
AND COMMONS-DBUTILS (BUT NO JAR FOR IT)

so where is this mysterious commmons-util???? Abducted by aliens???????

Shawn





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