Hi,

It does seem like the generic tools are too generic for you.

As for ECB, you can reconfigure the windows to be just one thing on the 
side with the bits you want, or even just put speedbar in the side.

There is also eassist (in contrib) that has some method navigation stuff 
you might like.

If you need help writing some new thing let me know.

Eric

On 05/11/2010 12:42 PM, David Ventimiglia wrote:
> Thanks, Eric.  Yes, the keystroke C-c , j is great, though it suffers
> from too many hits.  One of my Java files has 1200+ matches (tags), and
> that's not atypical.  Many of those are the import statements, which
> I'll never want to navigate to.  Many others are method parameters,
> which I'll also never want to navigate to.
>
> ECB seems a little heavyweight, since I want none of its multi-window
> features and only want source code navigation.
>
> Speedbar also doesn't work since it pops up in another frame, and seems
> to favor mouse usage.
>
> I understand that tags have a class that can be a symbol like 'variable,
> 'function, etc., and evidently semantic-imenu is smart enough to use
> this to sort tags into buckets like "Variables" and "Methods".  It's
> like 90% there, except that it also has everything else that I'll never
> need to navigate to (imports, etc.).
>
> I suspect what I'm looking for doesn't exist.  I'd be happy to poke
> around and maybe write a tiny semantic "app" if that's what's needed.
>
> Best,
> David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric M. Ludlam [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:47 PM
>> To: David Ventimiglia
>> Cc: JDEE Users Willey
>> Subject: Re: [jdee-users] Flatten/filter the Classes imenu?
>>
>> If you are using the keyboard, use the jump command on C-c , j  (lower
>> case j).  Then you can just hit TAB and/or do completion by typing a
>> couple letters.  The completion engine lets you TAB through different
>> locations in the file as well.
>>
>> Then, of course, there's the speedbar or ECB options that both do
>> similar things.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On 05/10/2010 08:23 PM, David Ventimiglia wrote:
>>> Thanks, Eric.  A couple of things I observe with these
>> customizations.
>>>
>>> 1. semantic-imenu-index-directory is off by default
>>> 2. semantic-imenu-bucketize-file when set to off gets rid of
> buckets,
>>> like "classes", "interfaces", "imports", and "packages".  That's
>> good.
>>> 3. type members (methods&   properties) still are grouped into
>>> submenu-ized buckets, regardless of the other changes I make in the
>>> semantic-imenu customization group.  That's bad.
>>> 4. import statements still are present.  That's bad.
>>> 5. type members are still grouped under the class they belong to.
>>> That's bad.
>>>
>>> Nos. 3&   5 above are the real problems, because they make you hit
> TAB
>>> numerous times when you invoke the imenu command.  With no. 5,
>> granted,
>>> a file can contain more than one type.  Also, types can contain
>> nested
>>> types.  Those facts, plus the fact that menus get unwieldy with too
>> many
>>> choices, make it understandable that the items would be grouped into
>>> submenus, and hierarchically-so.  But when using imenu from the
>>> keyboard--and in particular, with TAB completion--it doesn't really
>>> matter if the list has lots of elements, since typically the user
>> would
>>> just type a character or two, hit TAB, and reduce the list size
>>> dramatically.
>>>
>>> Then again, this is probably more of a Semantic issue.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> David
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Eric M. Ludlam [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
>>>> To: David Ventimiglia
>>>> Cc: JDEE Users Willey
>>>> Subject: Re: [jdee-users] Flatten/filter the Classes imenu?
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> If you also have senator enabled, you can choose several items from
>>> the
>>>> imenu config.  Disable 'bin by class', and possibly 'list other
>>> files'.
>>>>
>>>> The variables to change are:
>>>>
>>>> semantic-imenu-bucketize-file
>>>> semantic-imenu-index-directory
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> On 05/10/2010 04:31 PM, David Ventimiglia wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to flatten and/or filter the Classes imenu for Java
>>>>> files, to ease navigation among properties and methods? In its
>>>> default
>>>>> incarnation, it seems to show imports, properties, and methods,
> for
>>>> all
>>>>> contained classes, organized into a hierarchical menu system. I
>>> think
>>>> a
>>>>> typical use-case is that a user browses to a file, then wants
>>> quickly
>>>> to
>>>>> see and navigate to the methods it contains. Occasionally, a
> person
>>>>> might want to browse to a property. And I suspect it's almost
> never
>>>> that
>>>>> a user wants to navigate to a particular import statement. As it
>>>> stands,
>>>>> navigating to a method involves 4 menus/submenus. I think it'd be
>>>> more
>>>>> convenient to see all the methods on just one menu. More
> convenient
>>>> yet
>>>>> would be to do M-x imenu then TAB, and see a buffer listing the
>>>> methods
>>>>> in the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there customizations in JDEE and/or Semantic that either
>> flatten
>>>> the
>>>>> menu list and/or filter it just to show the methods?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Ventimiglia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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