Dave wrote: > Reply inline: > > - Dave > > > Mattias Campe wrote: > >>Dave wrote: >> [...] > >>>Also, I think we should all list our JIDs as early as possible in our >>>contact info lists. Having our email addresses and Jabber IDs be the >>>same is also good, because it gives us a measurable advantage over all >>>other major IM systems with the exception of MSN (although why anybody >>>would want to use Hotmail over Yahoo! Mail at this point is beyond me) >>>in terms of consistency. >> >>[...] >> >>I personally don't think that a lot of people need another e-mail >>addres. Maybe it's better to write libraries that client developers can >>use to check their existing e-mail adress(es) for new e-mail. Of course >>you could make it a server thing and having the info through headlines. >>Then every client automatically would support this notification (of >>course if the server supports it) > > Nonono ... I'm not talking about getting another email address; I'm talking about >using your domain (which you're probably already using for email) for Jabber too, so >you can have your JID be the same as your already-existing email addy :-)
Sorry, I misunderstood. Than I also like the idea ;-) > > >>>Lastly, of course (how many people have already shouted this?), >>>getting ISPs to setup a tiny Linux box running a Jabber server for >>>their subscribers would be great, and getting users to ask their ISPs >>>to provide Jabber servers may be even better. >> >>Imagine how it would be if the Jabber Community could be convinced of >>the use of Jabber! Well, reality is different, real life example: my ISP >>provided a CD-Rom with some software on it, like IE and Netscape. Guess >>what sort of IM systems were on it? Jup, ICQ and MSN, not a byte, not >>even a bit was devoted to Jabber :( ... > > Have you tried complaining to your ISP that they don't "support" > Jabber, or some other type of rediculous accusation just to get their > awareness up? To be honest: no. The problem is that my ISP has some financial problems so I think they won't change. Of course if I do not try it, they probably never change... > >>Of course if ISPs would have a Jabber server, then I hope that they make >>it clear enough to the people that they actually can choose any server >>they want. Otherwise people will think that Jabber just is another >>proprietary IM system. > > If an ISP is willing to use Jabber, I'll say "Thank you very much" and > avoid picking any further. Users will figure out whatever they want > whenever they want, but the reality is that most users don't seem to > mind being "locked in" even when we're talking about _real_ proprietary > protocols (e.g. AIM, ICQ, YIM, MSNM, etc.). You certainly won't see me > complaining about people unknowningly using an open IM system ;-) But if they would understand what Jabber is all about, it would be even greater :D . >>>Clearly, we need to reveal the "secret" of Jabber, because at the moment, >>>Jabber really is one of the best-kept secrets - even in the open source >>>community itself - because people simply don't know what it actually >>>is :-( >> > I can't stress that enough :-( > > >>>Dave Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>[...] >> >>.m. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>jdev mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > jdev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
