Ok, I must be going senile, cause I'm clearly wrong about ICQ being available in 1990 :)
As for IRC and VAX phone, yes they're clearly earlier examples of chatting, but I think it's stretching it to say they had presence. I even wrote a VAX phone clone for SCO Xenix in 1988 (and I know it was then because I checked my resumé hah). I do remember another system that was out slightly before ICQ called Powwow (or close to that), but I don't remember what features it had. Van Gale _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
