On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Joe Hildebrand wrote:

Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:59:54 -0600
From: Joe Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [jdev] XMPP Ping/Keepalive: Recommended method ?

On Jun 27, 2006, at 4:09 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote:

Well, not really. You'll get a TCP ack back, which should be enough to keep the lights on.

Not if you are dealing with inspection-type firewalls which don't really treat a TCP ACK as a data packet.

If firewalls did this, TCP would *break* for all applications. Can you please give a concrete example of a firewall that has this property?

Not a firewall appliance, but 'interesting' configurations with ISPs seeking to keep their dial-up lines/wavelan channels free (timers on their end were only reset on certain types of packets, which did not include tcp acks).

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  Bruce Campbell

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