Am 07.11.2013 23:36, schrieb Marco Cirillo:
Il 07/11/2013 22:20, Alexander Holler ha scritto:
I nevery said I don't want that my communication is secret and I never
said that I don't care about security. I just have said that I don't
care if the communication I do through XMPP on my little server uses
strong encryption. And no word about security.
That's legit to not care, but ultimately the manifesto is about caring...
And that doesn't mean that I don't care about my privacy, in fact a
care a lot, I'm just not that silly to think that I could use XMPP for
that whithout P2P encryption. That's a whole different thing than you
want to imply.
Good, but using weak security "channel" wise would mean leaving still
only one layer and no matter what the main encryption's semantic is that
it's a reversible process. Perhaps, the "(stronger) more the merrier".

Another which didn't understood.

I just said want to be able to use weak security. It's about having the choice.

Maybe because I don't need strong encryption or mabye because I have devices which are unable to use strong encryption, maybe because of ...

There might be a lot of reasons why I might not want or why I might be unable to use strong encryption on a specific server, device or whatever.


... I'll avoid commenting the last message, except that as long as your
server is located in country where there's a state of right and not some
dictatorship you should not worry about your private keys (because
that's the *kind* of keys needed after all), or another property of
yours, for that mean, being handed to someone else "without you noticing".
Also I ultimately prefer to look at facts, rather than what "seems to
be" :).

If I do look at the facts, there are those special letters. And if you don't have physical control about your server (e.g. if you don't sleep besides it), those letters enable some unnamed government to get your keys without you noticing it, except if you have secured them by a passphrase or similiar you would have to enter whenever you start a service. (That means they can e.g. show such a letter to whoever physically protects your server and then you are compromised). And those letters do compromise all the CAs in that country too. And it doesn't help me, if that country isn't a dictorship when that country feels free to handle everyone from the outside like a possible terrorist, outlaw or human without rights.

Anyway, now it's really enough. I feel like I've ended up in a kindergarten with a lot of people which seem to have become angry because I did say something against a small part of their toy and which do prefer to play the three monkeys and which like to turn my words in my mouth into something I never said.

Sorry to the serious people which do read this list, you aren't meant.

Alexander Holler
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