in the vein of JIAN, I recommend  "The Java(TM) Developers Almanac v1.4, Part A: 
Examples and
Quick Reference", Patrick Chan (IBSN 0201752808) . This URL will get you the best 
price : 
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/search?q=0201752808&t=ISBN&x=27&y=14
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> agreed :o)
> only one small thing:
> "JAVA in a nutshell" by david flanagan is undoubtedly one of the finest
> books that has been written about JAVA - but only for experienced
> C++/OO-programmers (I used it to switch from C++ to JAVA (V1.1))
> if you are a real newbie, consider
> "core JAVA 2, volume 1: fundamentals" by cay s. horstmann & gary cornell
> instead, which does not expect knowledge about OO-fundamentals or other 
> OO-languages (and there's a volume 2 for further improvement...)
> nevertheless "JAVA in a nutshell" is the best bet for later reference,
> because
> the information is very compact and concise (hence the title ;o)
> greetings
> 
> > Hi All
> > 
> > So, it's come to the attention of the list that we are all at different
> > stages on our walk with this thing we call Java.  Some of us have been
> > with
> > it since 1995 when it all started, some of us are just in our Object
> > Diapers
> > and trying to learn the best way we can.
> > 
> > If you are a complete newbie let me just encourage you with these pointers
> > that have helped me.
> > 
> > 1.  Join the Java Developers Connection at http://java.sun.com and sign up
> > to the "Java Technology Fundamentals Newsletter".
> > 
> > 2.  Buy a good book with a decend API reference, I swear by "Java In A
> > Nutshell" by O'Reilly.  I know books can be expensive, also be prepared to
> > update it once in a while as and when the new JDK's are released.
> > 
> > 3.  Read the tutorials at http://www.thejavatutorial.com
> > 
> > 4.  Spend some time writing some basic applications, don't go mad wanting
> > to
> > write full blown Swing apps with loads of functionality just as a practice
> > run.  This alone will cause enough frustration and will effectively stop
> > your personal learning and development.  Set some achievable goals with
> > realistic expectations.
> > 
> > 5.  Read some Java FAQ's on the net.  If you don't know where they are
> > then
> > use Google.
> > 
> > 6.  Google is your friend.  Learn to get the most out of it.
> > 
> > 7.  Don't forget to take a break.  Arriving on IRC and proclaiming that
> > you
> > were up all night trying to work out some cool program will not earn you
> > any
> > new friends.  In fact, the opposite will happen.
> > 
> > 8.  Look at open source Java apps and learn from them.
> > 
> > 9.  Don't just concentrate on applets.  Learn command line apps, swing
> > apps,
> > servlets, some jsp...... It's all experience and learning.  Just becaused
> > you scratched the surface does not mean you can put it on your CV/Resume
> > though.  Employers can see that a mile off.
> > 
> > 10. Enjoy what you do.  If you don't enjoy it then why are you doing it ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Jase Bell
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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