On 3/15/12 4:29 PM, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> I noticed you don't seem to have commented on how this breaks the jdk7u 
> guidelines.

Yeah, I wanted to leave that for a follow up e-mail, i.e. this one. The 
guidelines 
unfortunately get b0rken every now and then, in particular when new developers 
join
the project, or straddle the thin red line between whatever deeds they need to 
do to 
get their changes through their internal systems, and the things they need to 
do to
get their changes into this Project's forests. 

My unofficial motto for this Project has been "E pur si muove". [0]

Sometimes, that means sending a private mail to the new developer to advise 
them on the 
fine print of this Project's guidelines. When Edvard and I drafted the 
guidelines, 
that meant putting in enough room to allow retroactive approvals for example, 
as I 
expected that someone will every now and then miss following the processes 
properly 
before they pushed a useful fix, and I wanted an opportunity to educate such 
developers 
on the fine print of the Project's processes without having to penalize them 
publicly 
first.

All that said, when I see someone struggling with the processes, I try to 
educate them on it, 
just not necessarily publicly. For this particular change, when I looked at it 
before I 
retroactively approved it, I didn't see anything I'd find objectionable.

I understand that you'd find it disappointing that the difference between 
Oracle JDK and
the OpenJDK it's based on isn't always shrinking, but at the same time, I don't 
find it 
surprising, in light of what Oracle has said 2010 about continuing to offer its 
premium 
offerings, or disturbing, given that Oracle JDK != OpenJDK today. [1] In this 
case, I 
found it nice to see more regression tests make their way into OpenJDK - and I 
appreciate your 
kind offer in this thread to generalize this new batch to make it work with 
other providers. 
Thank you very much for offering to do that.

cheers,
dalibor topic

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eppur_si_muove
[1] http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173782
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