Hi Jörg,

Thanks for your comments.

On Dec 13, 2005, at 5:18 AM, Jörg von Frantzius wrote:

Alright, does anybody know if there is some rationale behind that?

I'll try to answer this one.

The TCK tests are designed to test the functionality of JDO in J2SE environments, as this is where the spec is focused. There are no spec requirements of a JDO implementation with regard to behavior inside a container (there is no contract that is required on either the container side or the JDO side).

Most JDO implementations use a non-standard way to configure the web environment (such as a non-Java Connector Architecture resource) mainly because the Java Connector Architecture resource requirements are overkill for most applications. 

It's also not clear what the TCK test suite would actually do.

That said, I think it's worth a discussion if you have some ideas of the scope and environment of such tests. 
I'd think that a majority of the JDO users are writing web applications and need to run their stuff in an application server.

True, but the TCK will likely not be normative as to the configuration of the JDO implementation inside the specific container environment.

Doesn't that mean the TCK is of limited use for the majority of JDO users?

Yes. 

(Trying to be a little provocative here, the TCK surely still is very useful ;)

The TCK is not for end users, but rather for JDO implementations to help them make sure that they are compliant with the specification. I think the major value of the TCK for end users is to make sure that their vendor passes it.

Best regards,

Craig


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Quoting Jörg von Frantzius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  
Hi,

does the TCK currently include any tests for managed environments?

Thanks for information,
Jörg

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Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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