On 23/11/11 22:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Yes, don't make up copyright notices. However, attribution is
important, so it may be important to say something.
My role model for this, before I started paying attention to Apache
projects, were the THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME files that Sun installed
with all of their binary distributions, including for OpenOffice.org
releases.
I am not so concerned about the NOTICE getting a bit lengthy so long
as folks realize what it is. If license statements need to be
reproduced, as in the case of a BSD-equivalent, my one recent
experiment at a NOTICE on a (derivative) work of my own making has
that at the bottom of the NOTICE file below the more-brief "portions
of ... " acknowledgments for third-party-origin material. The
license text is a numbered reference. (I think 2nd party is a direct
contributor yes, where the 1st party is the downstream producer of
the derivative works, i.e., an Apache project? Or is it the
reverse?)
This approach keeps the attribution summaries brief and at the top
where they can be reviewed easily. I go so far as to say where the
original work can be found upstream if I can. That's a personal
policy.
The pattern is that provenance is clear and that someone adopting or
examining my software also has a friendly pointer to any
still-available original for satisfying their own interests, finding
other goodies, etc. I also provide upstream patches to simple things
I notice. (I must get around to some of that at the moment [;<).
- Dennis
I think the confusion is that we are not using the code under a
BSD-equivalent.
As I understand it (which is limited understanding), is that HP made a
software grant to ASF identifying code on SourceForge. The Import/ is
the copy for the record.
We are using the code via the license to Apache, not the BSD-style
license. (This gets confusing because, in BSD, the copyright statement
is in the license text block.)
We have a
"""
a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable
copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of,
publicly display, publicly perform, distribute and sublicense,
internally and externally, the Software and such derivative
works, in source code and object code form;
"""
Our derivative work takes some of (a lot of) the HP source code.
I'm more than happy to acknowledge all that HP has contributed - indeed,
if not in the formal part, somewhere else. We wouldn't be here today
without HP's investment.
Andy
