I'm OK with Cloudbees using a template to lock things down for
jenkins.io.cloudbees.com.

One thing I would suggest is that in JIRA, if someone files an issue at
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org
in Project *Infrastructure*, Component: *ci*, instead of auto-assigning the
issue to one
person (rtyler), it goes to a team of people who can maintain this.

For example, I filed https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-741 in
June, and that got punted to Andrew Bayer.
Andrew is super-busy doing dev work on Jenkins, so I'm glad he has helped
in the past, but I don't
think this kind of stuff should get assigned to him, because his
considerable brainpower is better spent
on other activities, IMHO.

Regarding Travis, it is an excellent service, and I use it heavily for some
other projects I am involved in.
I have also used Appveyor and Codecov.io, and they are also excellent
services.

Travis and Appveyor are slightly competing with Jenkins, so I think it is
understandable for Cloudbees to want to
favor Jenkins for doing CI rather than using third party products and
services.  It doesn't look good, otherwise.

However, the Jenkins project and Cloudbees should see what can be done to
improve the level of support,
and also the feature set of jenkins.io.cloudbees.com, so that users do not
even have to consider using Travis
for Jenkins plugins.

On a side note, I hope that the Plumber plugin work that Andrew has been
working on goes farther along.
Andrew gave me a demo of a YAML based configuration of a  pipeline
workflow.  I was impressed.  This is very close
to the YAML configurations that Travis and Appveyor offer.

--
Craig


On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <k...@kohsuke.org> wrote:

>
> Like I said in my previous email, it's just that in
> jenkins.io.cloudbees.com we choose to use a template to lock things down.
>
>

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