Thanks for your explanation. It's helpful to me.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 4:19 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <k...@kohsuke.org> wrote: > Thanks for the question, Rick. > > There will be Jenkins level things and CDF level things. > > The SIGs that we currently have are Jenkins level entities. In the short > term all of them will remain as is. Over time, I think it makes a lot of > sense that some SIGs be formed at the CDF level --- for example, advocacy > of Continuous Delivery is one project I'd love to see move forward, and it > makes a lot more sense to do that at the CDF level than at the Jenkins > level. When/if CDF-level SIG happens, it's conceivable that some > Jenkins-level SIGs be morphed into CDF-level SIG. > > The CDF charter outlines committees that are defined at the CDF level. > More/less might get created over time by the decision of the CDF GB. > > The same thing with Ambassador. For the short term Jenkins-level > ambassador will remain, but I think it also makes sense that the > ambassadors be uplifted to the CDF level thing, especially if that makes > this program bigger and better resourced. If after a discussion this is > determined to be the case, then I think that's what's going to happen. > > Ultimately, my understanding is that it's really up to people who are > interested in driving things forward to evolve the structure, like how > we've been doing it in this project for the past decade. For the most part, > it's not like those structures are cast in stone by the current charter. > It's a living evolving document that we shape, and what we have right now > is "just" a starting point. > > Does that help? > > 2019年2月12日(火) 17:28 Rick <linuxsu...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi KK, >> >> Thanks for giving more details about the CDF. This is all good from my >> perspective. Just one question I want to ask. >> >> I know the main structure will remain. But how the relationship is going >> between SIG and Committee? Another similar question is about the >> ambassador. The CDF and Jenkins will both have the ambassador or just one >> of them. >> >> Best regards, >> Rick >> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:35 AM Kohsuke Kawaguchi <k...@kohsuke.org> >> wrote: >> >>> This is the formal call for input for the decision to move the Jenkins >>> project to the newly forming Continuous Delivery Foundation. (I was told >>> that my earlier attempt >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/jenkinsci-dev/1w57jl3K4S4/G1LvRwZEFgAJ> >>> to just change the subject didn't create a wholly new thread, hence this >>> email) >>> >>> Speaking as the board, if we are to pull the trigger and formalize this >>> new home, given the magnitude of the proposal, we need to make a binding >>> decision and record it as such. Given that this seems to be a topic that >>> relatively small number of people care about, and that those reactions so >>> far have been overwhelmingly positive, the board would like to set 2 weeks >>> comment period ending on Feb 22nd, where we solicit anyone's organized >>> thoughts on why you think we should or shouldn't move the Jenkins project >>> under the proposed CDF. You can write it here, or if need be, send the >>> board a private email at jenkinsci-bo...@googlegroups.com. We'll >>> consider and respond to them, and provided that there still remains a >>> significant consensus (like the one that we are seeing so far), then the >>> board will make the binding decision. >>> >>> Not much of the existing structure of the Jenkins project will change. >>> Committers, contributors, officers, teams, the board, and all that will >>> still remain (including all the "normalization" work like voting.) The idea >>> is that the board and officers of the Jenkins project will be the >>> "oversight body of each TOC Project" (charter 7-b-i) and this links the >>> chain of authority of the CDF and the Jenkins project. Our existing >>> technical decision making process of JEP, SIG, PR, etc remain under our >>> control. The whole of the draft charter can be seen here >>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QwpyOLRh4o41Hh5GA0FvTB8iNEEW-I9_/view?usp=sharing>. >>> Again, if anyone has questions, concerns, and/or opinions, I'd love to hear >>> those. >>> >>> Please keep the discussion going. 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