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Hello,
Yes indeed it is quite a mess. We are hoping to help clear this up
a bit, some of these plugins are not as actively maintained as
they perhaps need to be, and lack some features that we expect in
modern plugins.
regards
Daniel
On 6/11/19 5:09 pm, domi wrote:
Thats great suggestion by Mark!
Please also make sure to clearly differentiate the
“Bitbucket Server” Plugin landscape form the “Bitbucket Cloud”
landscape - its quite a mess and hard to understand what is
really needed for what and why.
e.g. there are plugins like
- “Bitbucket for Blue Ocean”
...
Some do support “Server” AND “Cloud” others don’t.
Some even do the exact/nearly same thing. And most of the
plugins probably do not use a common configuration but have to
be configured individually to have access to the service.
As I’m a user of "bitbucket cloud” my self, I think
this clearly shows a problem: there is no coordination of what
kind of plugins are build and how they should work together. I
understand this is also the power of Jenkins: something is
missing and your free to build a plugin to solve the issue. But
with each plugin published, the confusion for users/admins gets
bigger. I’m sure this issue is not only about bitbucket, the
same thing (probably even bigger) might be with GitHub and other
areas.
It would be really great to have some kind of
documentation for a topics/area which highlights (and maybe
coordinates) the most common use cases one has around different
topics. e.g. GitHub Integration, Bitbucket Cloud Integration,
Bitbucket Server Integration, Kubernetes Integration, Docker
Integration, … some of these might overlap or must work with
each other - but sure there are a lot of hidden gems and
simplifications which should get better attention. Providing a
bigger picture on a specific topic (not just a single plugin) in
the context of the whole community, might even help to
coordinate plugin creation and feature placing in existing
plugins AND deprecation of existing/duplicated plugins. Sure,
such an initiative would need someone being responsible, in
terms of Bitbucket, I think the best would be if Atlassian could
step in.
Sorry for misusing this thread, but the topic just
happened to raise this issue for me again and I’m sure I’m not
the only one feeling this way...
/Domi
We don't have a recommended
install count, though I think that is a good idea for
discussion.
Would you be willing to join me in a Jenkins Online
Meetup that can highlight the new capabilities
and the improvements provided by the Bitbucket Server
integration plugin?
We hosted the next generation Warnings
plugin in a Jenkins Online
Meetup and it helped users understand the
capabilities of the plugin and how it was improving
the experience compared to the previous plugin. If
your'e available in mid December (17, 18, or 19), I
could host that session in the same fashion. If that
week in December does not work for you, we could host
it in early January.
If you're attending DevOps World | Jenkins
World 2019 in Lisbon Dec 2-5, we could have you
present a lightning talk in the community booth
describing the plugin and what it provides.
It would also be very nice to add a
"Bitbucket" use case section to the jenkins.io site, similar
to the " GitHub" use case
section. The plugin documentation seems like a good
start for that use case section.
You might also consider a blog post on the
new plugin as another way to encourage users to use
it.
Thanks,
Mark Waite
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