Thanks Gavin for the announcement draft! It looks great, and I plan to submit a few suggestions to improve it.
Regarding the process... Should we also add heads-up about removing the JEP-200 Ruby Runtime exceptions and XStream converters from the Jenkins core (source <https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/blob/master/core/src/main/resources/jenkins/security/whitelisted-classes.txt#L179-L202>)? It is a reasonable next step, but it will nuke plugin users on the newer Jenkins cores. IMHO we should set a grace period, e.g. announce this change with a 6-month advance so that users have an opportunity to migrate to other plugins. In such a case, they may also benefit from an administrative monitor warning them about the breaking change (it would be a nice engine in general for deprecations). BR, Oleg On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 4:38:57 AM UTC+2 ga...@gavinmogan.com wrote: > Draft - https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/4256 > > Would love some ideas on workarounds. > > I'll have a PR ready for update-center before may 15th. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:14 AM Baptiste Mathus <m...@batmat.net> wrote: > >> +1 for deprecating this. The Jenkins community should invest its time >> more into the future than these components that are lacking any kind of >> maintainership. >> >> Cheers >> >> Le jeu. 15 avr. 2021 à 04:55, Owen Mehegan <omeh...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> gitlab-plugin doesn't depend on it, but gitlab-hook plugin does. It has >>> been unmaintained for 5 years and functionality is replaced by >>> gitlab-plugin and gitlab-branch-source. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021, 12:39 PM Jim Klimov <jimk...@cos.ru> wrote: >>> >>>> On April 14, 2021 6:45:30 PM UTC, Oleg Nenashev <o.v.ne...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >I am +1 for depreciation. I would recommend to make an announcement >>>> >blog >>>> >about that with e.g. 1-month advance notice, but there is no reason to >>>> >keep >>>> >these plugins around. Ruby plugin stack is not maintainable without a >>>> >full-time contributor, we should pick our battles >>>> > >>>> >On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 20:36 Mark Waite <mark.ea...@gmail.com> >>>> >wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:20 PM Daniel Beck <m...@beckweb.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Since the last time we discussed this (and I created the JEP), we >>>> >added >>>> >>> deprecation warning support to Jenkins 2.246 and newer, which is >>>> >basically >>>> >>> designed for such a case. This makes JEP-7 much cleaner to >>>> >implement, >>>> >>> because we now have good ways to inform users about it. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I'd start with a deprecation warning for ruby-runtime and all >>>> >dependent >>>> >>> plugins pointing to the JEP or this thread (or, if you want to write >>>> >it up, >>>> >>> a blog post), and if folks don't <s>complain</s> offer to take over >>>> >>> ruby-runtime maintainership in large enough numbers, we can suspend >>>> >a few >>>> >>> weeks later, followed by core cleanup. WDYT? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> +1 from me. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>> >the >>>> >> Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/jenkinsci-dev/Ve0fqAud3Mk/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> >> jenkinsci-de...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtFpo1yfG81wQYMUYp9vq3wFP%2BE40zA5cyAuZLYAQF83JQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >> >>>> >< >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtFpo1yfG81wQYMUYp9vq3wFP%2BE40zA5cyAuZLYAQF83JQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >>>> > >>>> >> . >>>> >> >>>> >>>> I believe there were plugins depending on it, that got me to have to >>>> pick java8 explicitly on one system. 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