Defaults and (people not seeing a need to change)

Shipping an ‘admin monitor’ encouraging people to update would probably
make a difference

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 17:18, Tim Jacomb <timjaco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It’s just down to defaults I think.
>
> We’ve seen the numbers rise as we changed the website and helm chart to
> use Java 11 by default
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 17:08, Daniel Beck <db...@cloudbees.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:42 AM Oleg Nenashev <o.v.nenas...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in favor of making JDK11 the default in all our distributions,
>>> including controller and agent Docker images.
>>> At the same time I am afraid that removal of Java 1.8 support is
>>> premature. The vast majority of Jenkins users still uses this version, and
>>> the migration to Java 11 won't be seamless in al l cases. For example,
>>> Maven Plugin will effectively switch project builds to Java 11 once the
>>> agent images are updated. It will cause unexpected issues in user builds
>>> here and there. Nothing should be critical, but we should not force users
>>> to migrate immediately.
>>>
>>> IMHO there should be a grace period between Java 8 support deprecation
>>> and the actual removal. Maybe 6 months or so.
>>>
>>
>> Agree; I'd even be more conservative than just six months. We can and
>> should update the default Docker images to run on JDK 11. But we shouldn't
>> ignore that just ~0.3% of instances use Java 11, let's do something about
>> that first. I wouldn't be surprised that there are still some problems to
>> work out but we just have no users yet who would be affected.
>>
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