Hi, > recognizing donations through Jenkins social media
sounds like a better approach than having a plugin. If there is a need to go beyond social media endorsements and invest time in a technical solution, I think instead of having some 2.0 version of the plugin one should look into the Open Badges standard and maybe issue different badges for financial support / coding / reviews / translations (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Open_Badges ). AFAIK such badges can be exported to LinkedIn and may get some attention there. Best regards, Zbynek On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:31 PM Oleg Nenashev <o.v.nenas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Honestly I'm not even sure it's worth spending the time to upgrade the > plugin. It just adds a low res icon and a link. I vote for discontinuing > the non distributed plugin. > > There are some merits in the icon/link: pointing end users of Jenkins to > https://www.jenkins.io/participate/ . It **might** help to get more > visitors of this page and, hopefully, new contributors. > We could also discontinue the plugin and just include the functionality > into the Jenkins core. Should not be a big deal as long as it's opt-in in > appearance. > > BR, Oleg > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 3:19:21 AM UTC+2 ga...@gavinmogan.com wrote: > >> Honestly I'm not even sure it's worth spending the time to upgrade the >> plugin. It just adds a low res icon and a link. I vote for discontinuing >> the non distributed plugin. >> >> On Mon., May 10, 2021, 11:34 a.m. Mark Waite, <mark.ea...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> +1 from me on the proposal as well >>> >>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:20:02 AM UTC-6 timja...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> +1 to proposal >>>> >>>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 11:08, Oleg Nenashev <o.v.ne...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Would appreciate any feedback in this thread from the community >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:58:50 AM UTC+2 Oleg Nenashev wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> We’ve recently had a few discussions with the board and Daniel Beck >>>>>> about the “Friend of Jenkins” plugin. This is a plugin referenced from >>>>>> https://www.jenkins.io/donate: *“In showing our appreciation, we’ll >>>>>> send out a special "friend of Jenkins" plugin to those who have donated >>>>>> at >>>>>> least 25 USD / 25 EUR. This plugin adds a little icon in the footer >>>>>> section, telling that you are a friend of Jenkins. You can install this >>>>>> to >>>>>> your Jenkins to show off that you’ve helped us”*. De facto, we have >>>>>> not been doing so in the recent years. There are a few problems >>>>>> associated >>>>>> with the plugin. >>>>>> >>>>>> *First of all*, you can become a “Friend of Jenkins” only by >>>>>> donating money. IMO it goes against open source values, we should equally >>>>>> appreciate all kinds of contributions and avoid promoting money donations >>>>>> specifically. *Secondly*, the plugin is private source at the >>>>>> moment. It is weird to send a private source plugin to anyone, especially >>>>>> as appreciation. *Thirdly*, the plugin is dated. It has not been >>>>>> updated for a while, and it does not use modern build/test pipelines. For >>>>>> example the code still targets Jenkins 1.396 as the build target. Even if >>>>>> the code is tiny, it is not good to send such a questionable build to >>>>>> Jenkins users and suggest its installation. *Last but not least*, >>>>>> sending private builds in email is flawed on its own due to the risk of >>>>>> various social engineering attacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suggest that we completely tear down the “Friend of Jenkins” >>>>>> program: >>>>>> >>>>>> - We remove sections about “Friend of Jenkins” from the Donations >>>>>> page >>>>>> - Instead of sending the plugin, the Jenkins Governance Board >>>>>> will focus on sending appreciation letters and recognizing donations >>>>>> through Jenkins social media. It should help us to build >>>>>> relationships with >>>>>> donors and hopefully get them involved in the community. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Later actions (no specific timeline): >>>>>> >>>>>> - We (as community) open source the plugin as the standard >>>>>> Jenkins plugin on https://github.com/jenkinsci, update it to the >>>>>> modern development pipelines. >>>>>> - We update the plugin to reference >>>>>> https://www.jenkins.io/participate/ instead of donations. We >>>>>> might add “Donate” as a type of participation to the list >>>>>> - We release the plugin as 2.0, without changing the artifact ID. >>>>>> Any user of the older private source version, if any, will be able to >>>>>> update via the update center. Any Jenkins user will be also able to >>>>>> install >>>>>> it via the plugin manager, no preconditions. >>>>>> - We reference the plugin from the install wizard suggestions >>>>>> (not installed by default), and other places. >>>>>> >>>>>> There were also some discussions about building signed versions of >>>>>> the plugin and somehow allowing to verify the “Friend of Jenkins” status. >>>>>> Although I proposed it, now I do not think it is really needed. We can >>>>>> discuss it for future iterations. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would appreciate any feedback, and I suggest discussing that at the >>>>>> next Governance meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Oleg Nenashev >>>>>> Jenkins Governance Board >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to jenkinsci-de...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/790a8d83-e939-4e96-adbe-98ca24f266dfn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/790a8d83-e939-4e96-adbe-98ca24f266dfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to jenkinsci-de...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/7ecbe41e-7882-4351-a346-4cb53ade8955n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/7ecbe41e-7882-4351-a346-4cb53ade8955n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to jenkinsci-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/d5a2f658-d7b6-49c5-9a27-14a8160384edn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/d5a2f658-d7b6-49c5-9a27-14a8160384edn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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