On 19.08.2015, at 15:24, John Mellor <john.mel...@esentire.com> wrote:

> The changelog on the web site incredibly shows no changes between 1.624 and 
> 1.625.

1.625 has not actually been uploaded, and the tag in Git is possibly off as 
well (several commits from the weekend are missing). I'm hoping to grab KK 
today to find out what happened. As long as this is unresolved, the changelog 
needs to wait.

>  This weird kind of entry was also done for the 1.623 release, although 
> someone retrofitted the changelog to state “No major user-visible changes in 
> this release.”, whatever that is supposed to mean.

It means there are no major user-visible changes. (See below.)

>  If there are no changes, why was it released?

Jenkins is released weekly. I'd hope that KK finds the time to check whether 
there are actually changes scheduled before doing a release, but at least for 
1.623 this obviously didn't happen. Notably, it hasn't been necessary to do so 
in years AFAICT, as there was always something that could be mentioned.

> The changelog is supposed to be there to show why the users should upgrade to 
> it or skip it, and these notes obviously fail that test.  The smallest 
> changes should always be noted.

Let's roleplay: You're in charge of the changelog. 1.623 has been released 
(you're not in charge of that), and you're looking for what needs to be 
mentioned in the changelog. This is the diff to the previous release:

https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/compare/jenkins-1.622...jenkins-1.623

So, what do you post? That @Nonnull annotations were added to the 
hudson.model.Result class? That a logging level was changed from FINE to FINER? 
That a class that was never used and never part of the public API has been 
removed?

I decided to just write that there are no notable user-visible changes.

It wouldn't take long for the complaints to come in if we actually mentioned 
*everything* that gets changed in the changelog.

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