Hi,
Thanks for the replies, but neither actually got around to answering the question
regarding Jess - is it a straight commercial product? Is it GPL?
I am quite surprised at the tone of the replies, and I must assume that my
hypothetical (to use Jess in a commercial product, after removing the 'Sandia'
messages) was taken as a statement of intent. No so - I just don't understand the
license/copyright position, and was using the hypothetical
to try and get a handle on it.
As to : "If you're not smart enough to see someone else's code and then go create some
code of your own to do the same thing...", this technique is sometimes referred to as
reinventing the wheel - rarely a good thing, even in the food industry.
Cheers,
Danny.
"James C. Owen" wrote:
> Amen. But ONLY if the organization (person) who owned the copyright actually wanted
>to go to the bother and trouble of doing so. It is my understanding that prior to
>the infamous Lotus/whoever case that the copyright laws were such that you only had
>to change 10% of the existing code to
> make it your own. That involved changing only the header file in some code.
>However, after the Lotus case "look and feel" became an important factor.
>
> Also, if you will recall, Borland dBASE III and dBASE II lost their copyright
>because a large percentage of their code came from some public domain code that they
>did not acknowledge in their original copyright application. For a period of about
>90 days, we all made legal copies of dBASE
> III.
>
> Besides all that, it shows a total lack of competence to blatantly copy someone
>else's code. If you're not smart enough to look at what someone else has done and
>then create your own, you should change your line of business; say, become a lawyer
>or a used car salesman. If you're not smart
> enough to see someone else's code and then go create some code of your own to do the
>same thing, then maybe you should consider a career in the food service industry. :-)
>
> "Lawrence D. DeVooght" wrote:
>
> > You would "stand" about the same place if you took a best seller, or the galleys
>of an upcoming best seller, corrected any typos, rearranged some paragraphs and
>chapters to suite your aesthetic flow and changed some context to make it more in
>line with how you think the story should go.
> >
> > You would "stand" to get you butt sued off.
> >
> > Lawrence D. DeVooght
> > Savant Information Systems
> > Kenwood, California
> >
> > Those who cheat time must accept a proportional risk of failure.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Ayers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 7:35 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: JESS: License question
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm afraid I'm no good at legal jargon, and I would like to know what
> > the license/copyright situation is with Jess. The source couldn't be
> > much more open (ref. the bug fix postings on this group), but the
> > standard package gives a 'Sandia' ownership message. I am a little
> > confused - if for example I was to take the Alpha code, debug it and
> > remove all copyright notices, then release a commercial product that
> > incorporated said code, how would I stand legally? (I have no such
> > intentions BTW).
> > If someone could kindly translate this into natural language for me, I
> > would be most grateful.
> > Cheers,
> > Danny.
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> ttfn
>
> IHN
> Jim
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