I also found the documentation on Eclipse to be something less than
intuitive, so I went out to Borders and ordered the two books (that have
been published to date). Learning Eclipse will be one of my "projects" over
the next few weeks. It seems to be a good IDE (especially at the project
level). The notion of buying an IDE for Java (which is free itself) is not
very appealing, so I second the idea of using tools like Ecipse (after all,
it has the backing of IBM).

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From: "James Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: JESS: Open Source Java IDE


> Well, a month later someone reads his back email and replies. (moi)
> Never having used IDEA (but having used many, many other IDE programs
> and editors) I found that paying $500 for some of these just to throw
> them away a couple of years later OR to not be able to use them on the
> next job because everyone had "standardized" on another tool, was not
> really financially feasible.
>
> Let's see:  IDEA is $499.  Eclipse is free.  Guess which wannabe I'll
> use next time?  :-)
>
> BTW, for those looking around, Eclipse is not really intuitive.  It
> takes a bit of getting used to in order to use effectively.  However,
> once you get the basics down, it's great.  I was forced to use Eclipse
> on a recent job where they used all of the free software that they could
> get (yes, Richard, that one) and after a month or so, I really liked it.
> Still use it for my personal projects.
>
> SDG
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: JESS: Open Source Java IDE
>
> I think sorokinru wrote:
> > Hello jess-users,
> >
> >   I understand that this question is not quite correct, but I whant to
> >   know jess-users opinion that I rate much highly. Shortly, what is a
> >   best free open-source Java IDE?
> >
>
>
> Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) is the best open-source IDE, without
> question. The editor is very nice and very smart, and it has good
> integration with JUnit, Ant, and CVS right out of the box.
>
> Eclipse is, however, really just a wan imitation of IntelliJ IDEA
> (www.intellij.com.) The one place where Eclipse is better than IDEA is
> in the availability of third-party extensions (plug-ins) -- there are
> many more available for Eclipse. But in terms of core functionality,
> IDEA reigns.
>

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