Hi Stefano,
Which version are you using? J1 or J2?
I am interested in this topic, but I just can't find JR.properties.
Could you tell me where is it? Thanks.

- James Liao

On 6/23/05, Stefano Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So (this is for all, guys!)
> using role-merge does not seem to save 'space'.
> But I still think that role fallback option is meant to function 'on the 
> fly': is it correct?
> That is:
>     if I do not find a default.psml to clone for a new user, I "fall back" 
> and show what I find for the defined role.
> The matter is: "show" or "clone"?
> As Archana says, for multiple role merging, it seems "clone"...
> For a single role?
> 
> Bye
> Stefano
>   -----Messaggio Originale-----
>   Da: Archana Turaga
>   A: Jetspeed Users List
>   Data invio: giovedì 23 giugno 2005 10.59
>   Oggetto: RE: Role and default psml
> 
> 
>   You are right...that will be the result and the PSML will be generated on 
> the file. If you are doing file-based you should see a new PSML file for the 
> user that was just created...as much as I remember...since I experimented 
> with this only once...
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Stefano Bianchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:56 AM
>   To: Jetspeed Users List
>   Subject: Re: Role and default psml
> 
>   Dear Archana,
>   just to get the idea:
> 
>   if
> 
>       services.JetspeedSecurity.newuser.roles= ROLE_A, ROLE_B, ROLE_C
> 
>   and psml for roles are something like:
> 
>       ROLE_A = {PORTLET_A1, PORTLET_A2, PORTLET_A3}
>       ROLE_B = {PORTLET_B1, PORTLET_B2}
>       ROLE_C = {PORTLET_C1, PORTLET_C2, PORTLET_C3}
> 
>   then the psml for the new user created id something like:
> 
>       ROLE_A | ROLE_B | ROLE_C
> 
>   each tab containing the relative portlets.
> 
>   Correct?
> 
>   But: the new psml is generated 'on the fly' or is it created by merging the 
> role psmls and then written on DB/file?
>   I.E. using roles, can we save DB/harddisk space?
> 
>   Thanx
>   Stefano
> 
>     -----Messaggio Originale-----
>     Da: Archana Turaga
>     A: Jetspeed Users List
>     Data invio: giovedì 23 giugno 2005 10.48
>     Oggetto: RE: Role and default psml
> 
> 
>     The psmls from all the roles that were assigned to the user will be 
> merged...It is actually pretty interesting the way the PSML merge works....if 
> user has A,B, C roles then the result of the merge is that the PSML belonging 
> to each user will show up as a separate tab...hope that answers the 
> question...
> 
>     Regards,
>     Archana
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Stefano Bianchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:27 AM
>     To: Jetspeed Users List
>     Subject: Re: Role and default psml
> 
>     Well, then I hope I am still in time to steal one more:
> 
>     what does 'role-based merge' mean?
>     Some portlets from here, some from there?
>     On which basis?
> 
>     As a sign of everlasting gratitude, I will post a mail (provide a short 
> doc?) summarizing this discussion...
> 
>     Bye
>     Stefano (Italy)
> 
>     P.S. Where are you posting from? I see you answer sometimes in the middle 
> of the night... USA?
>       -----Messaggio Originale-----
>       Da: David Sean Taylor
>       A: Jetspeed Users List
>       Data invio: giovedì 23 giugno 2005 9.11
>       Oggetto: Re: Role and default psml
> 
> 
>       Stefano Bianchi wrote:
>       > Thank you David!
>       > You always have the right answer!
>       > Just some more ;-) (it seems a good opportunity to fix it all for the
>       > community!):
>       >
>       >     services.JetspeedSecurity.newuser.roles= user, my_role1, my_role2
>       >
>       > Does the new user get ALL these roles?
> 
>       Yes
> 
>       > If yes, what does it imply for psml?
> 
>       If you are using role-based fallback of psml, it means that all roles
>       psml directories will be searched for a psml resource for the current 
> user
> 
>       Then there is role-based merge
>       In that case, when the user is created, then the roles from the
>       JetspeedSecurity.newuser.roles is applied in merging all role psml
> 
> 
>       >
>       > And if
>       >
>       >     services.Profiler.newuser.template= [blank]
>       >
>       > which 'role psml' is used/copied? The first one only (i.e. user)?
>       > Is the 'role psml' copied as the 'new user's psml' or is it used 
> without
>       > copying it?
>       >
>       only applies when role-based merge is set, again they are all merged
> 
>       > I hope I have no more, but I can not guarantee!
> 
>       Don't worry, its good to have questions, especially on these poorly
>       documented features. Problem is been so busy lately its very difficult
>       to find time to answer them
> 
> 
>       David
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