With the improvements to narrator in Windows 8 and the hints of scripting being added in Windows 9 I suspect we're going to see several changes in the screen reader industry.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brent > Harding via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:54 PM > To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: JAWS 16 > > I figured they would drop XP support pretty soon because I thought one > of those FSCasts hinted that once maintaining compatibility hindered > future progress, XP would get dropped. On one hand, I like the idea of > the home version supporting the pro editions of Windows, but now I feel > like I will be getting little for being stuck having to continue paying > the higher SMA. > They should give the remote support free for that extra cost. I'm not > sure if they'd let you downgrade it or something. I guess it's too > early because the info isn't too available yet on exactly what 16 is. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:41 PM > Subject: JAWS 16 > > > > Indirectly, I received an email from someone at the NFB convention > > saying that FS has announced that JAWS 16 will not support XP. Anyone > > using XP might want to contact FS for confirmation. > > > > That same email states that JAWS Standard will now be renamed JAWS > > Home and will be operable on Pro systems. FS will require the more > > expensive version of JAWS only for commercial purposes. I don't know > > how this will be enforced, but at first blush, it sounds as though > > pricing could become a little fairer and more rational. > > > > I don't like to post claims I've read only third hand, but I'm doing > > so here because if these two points are true, they could affect some > listers' > > purchasing decisions in the near future. I, for one, will select the > > cheaper SMA the next time mine expires if this new JAWS Home > > development comes about. Again, anyone affected should contact FS to > confirm. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris > > &Hubby Chris via Jfw > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:09 PM > > To: Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS); The Jaws for Windows support list. > > Subject: Re: Revo Uninstaller > > > > Hi, > > > > i use jaws 13 on win xp with free revo's latest version and can > access > > any revo option required with just the system cursor of both jaws and > > nvda. > > > > hth > > > > DorisAt 07:20 PM 7/1/2014, you wrote: > >>I have a solution/response to the separate question about Revo > >>Uninstaller, that was in an email string today on a different > subject. > >>The question was: > >> > >>"Is there a way to make Revo Uninstaller Jaws-friendly, so all the > >> controls are easier to select from and activate, and I don't just > >>find > >> a Cancel and Back Button?" > >> > >>With review mode, I am able to easily operate those otherwise > >>inaccessible Revo Uninstaller buttons that were mentioned as > requiring > >>sighted assistance. Below I will explain how I do it, although there > >>may be other ways. I consider myself technically challenged, so keep > >>that in mind. If anyone wants to know more specifics, please contact > >>me off list and we can chat by phone. > >> > >>Tim Ford > >> > >> > >>Operating Revo Uninstaller with JAWS > >> > >>Note. I am using version 1.95, and the latest of JAWS version 15. I > >>am on a Windows 7 machine, and prior to that, I used Revo Uninstaller > >>on an XP home edition machine. I intentionally decline Revo's offer > >>to update the software. This version works for me, so why bother > >>getting more current and then finding out that a new version is > >>inaccessible? End of note. > >> > >>When you launch Revo Uninstaller, hereinafter called Revo, you will > >>find yourself at the top of the list of programs. The list is in > >>alphabetical order. First letter navigation works, so for example, > >>pressing the s key takes you to the first program in the list that > >>starts with s. Use the arrow keys to move through the list. You > need > >>to use all four arrow key directions when navigating this list, since > >>the left and right arrow key navigation does not jump rows. > >>When on the program you want, press the application key, or > >>alternatively, the shift f10 key sequence. This gives you a list of > >>most of Revo's features. The first item on the list is "uninstall", > >>and is of course the most common item to select. But take the time > to > >>go down the list to see some very nice other options. For example, > >>you can find out more about the program through options on the list > >>such as doing a Google search, or going to the web site for the > >>program creator. Use these options unless you are absolutely sure > you > >>do not need that program! Another handy item is the option to remove > >>that program from Revo's list. There are many programs that most of > >>us will not want to ever touch, so this option allows you to have on > >>your list only those programs you may want to remove; it does not > >>uninstall or remove anything from the program, it just hides it so > you > >>don't waste time arrowing through the same stuff again and again. > >>Now back to the uninstall option. Press enter to start that, and you > >>will get a warning screen with yes and no buttons. You can either > use > >>the tab and enter key to move amongst the buttons and activate the > one > >>you want. Or, pressing the y key will activate the yes button, and > >>the d key activates the no button. > >> > >>What happens next will depend upon the program you are removing, so > >>just listen carefully to what JAWS is telling you. The JAWS key and > b > >>usually does a good job of repeating the important text. > >> > >> > >> > >>When Revo tells you to select the level of uninstall, tab once to a > >>vertical list with the three options, low, moderate, and high. High > >>is the most aggressive in terms of removing registry items. It is > >>also the mode that seems to make Revo superior to the standard > Windows > >>uninstall process found under the control panel. I always use the > >>highest uninstall mode, and have never had a problem. So select the > >>mode with the up and down arrows, then tab once and activate the OK > >>button. > >> > >>Note, I am now going from memory for the rest of these instructions, > >>since I don't actually want to uninstall any programs, so please do > >>not take me completely literally; I may not exactly remember how JAWS > >>names the buttons, but the description below will be close enough. > >> > >>The JAWS access problems seem to come up after Revo has uninstalled > >>the program, and prompts you on whether you want to search the > >>registry for leftover items. Unless you realize you did something > >>wrong, you do want to have Revo continue with this step. After all, > >>if you don't use this option, you don't need to use Revo. > >> > >>I believe the first prompt uses a next button to continue, and JAWS > >>will see this button, so press enter on it. If you are not sure > where > >>you are, use the tab and shift tab, pressing enter to activate. > >> > >>At this stage I recommend you now go into JAWS review mode, and stay > >>in review mode until you get to and select the "finish" > >>button. When in review mode, all the important information is clear > >>and easily read with the arrow keys. I recommend using control with > >>left or right arrow, which takes you nicely from word to word. This > >>also ensures that you are at the proper place to do the left click. > >>When you want to activate a given command, use the JAWS keystroke for > >>a left mouse click. > >> > >>One step will be the option of selecting all items that Revo > >>recommends be removed from the registry and elsewhere on your > >>computer. (Revo also lists each such item slated for removal, but > the > >>descriptions are beyond my level of technical knowledge. I have > >>always pressed the select-all button, and have never had a problem.) > >> > >>Select the option you want by the left mouse click keystroke. When > >>clicking on that select-all button, you will not hear any feedback > >>from JAWS, but take it on faith that you have made that selection. > >>Move forward to the "delete" button and click on it. JAWS will warn > >>you that this is going to remove the listed stuff, and it tells you > to > >>press yes or no to proceed. You can press the y key for yes, n key > >>for no, or you can manually move to the button you want and click on > >>it. > >> > >>When Revo has deleted all that stuff, it will often times show a zero > >>in the number of items left, which makes sense, but Revo confusingly > >>asks you to select or de-select the listed options. Go through the > >>same steps above about selecting and hitting the delete button. You > >>will often fine that in a second pass, Revo has found more stuff it > >>recommends you delete. I have had as many as three passes before it > >>catches everything, but most often the second pass is all you need. > >>When Revo finds nothing more, you will then see a "finish" button, > >>with a congratulations message that you are done. When you click on > >>the finish button, Revo will immediately pop up into the list of > >>programs, ready to start again. If you are done, just exit with > >>alt-f4. > >> > >>That is it. It is actually pretty easy once you do the steps a few > >>times, and that is coming from someone who is at best considered > >>average in terms of JAWS skills. > >>This is the end of the basic instructions. If you contact me off > >>list, I will be glad to help, either via email or on the phone. > >> > >>Sincerely, > >>Tim Ford > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Jfw mailing list > >>[email protected] > >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Jfw mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Jfw mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
