ok Andrew On 9/13/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Jfw mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Jfw digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > (david) > 2. RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > (david) > 3. Re: McAfee (Charles Krugman) > 4. Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > (Dave 'Farfar' Carlson) > 5. Thunderbird Blind 3.0 official release (John Martyn) > 6. 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Re: J16, New Features (Soronel Haetir) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:45:56 -0400 > From: "david" <[email protected]> > To: "'Lisle, Ted \(CHFS DMS\)'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for > Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > Message-ID: <003f01cfcc5e$4ab59500$e020bf00$@ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > hello; > > if your using jaws15, > you will find the jaws kill at: > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > if you really need to you could create shortcut to desktop, > > the windows-key+insert-key+f4=kil/unload jaws from memory. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:01 PM > To: Doris &Hubby Chris; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > It must be transferrable via merge, as it's still on my office machine, > and > I haven't got anything older than 13 on here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris &Hubby > Chris via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:11 PM > To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > which version is that found in? I did not find it with my jaws 13. > > Thanks much. > > Doris > > At 10:24 AM 9/8/2014, you wrote: >>Ted, >> >>The killjaws feature I use is an actual executable jfwkill.exe that was >>shipped with older versions of JAWS. It appears to still work, and I >>keep an icon on my desktop for that, and it's the only one starting >>with the letter "k". >> >>Haven't used the JAWS+Windows+F4 key combination in a long time. >> >>Dave Carlson >>Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and >>woodworker >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Dennis Clark" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support >>list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 04:53 AM >>Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >>Is that the combo also known as KillJAWS? I added that to my office >>desktop some years ago on advice from this list, but can't remember now >>how I did it. It's saved my neck more times than I can count, but I've >>never known it to come back on its own. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis >>Clark via Jfw >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:28 PM >>To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >>Is this new to Jaws V15? >>Thanks >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows >>support list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:06 PM >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >> > It's my understanding that that's the beauty of Jawskey plus windows >> > key plus f4. it unscrambles JAWS' brain and brings it back. I love >> > this key stroke! >> > At 04:12 PM 9/5/2014, you wrote: >> >>In recent days, after I've closed JAWS with this key combo, there is >> >>the expected silence. But then, after less than a minute, JAWS comes >> >>up speaking again, saying, "JAWS is ready." >> >> >> >>I'd suspected this behavior, but moved on. Today it became inescapable. >> >>Just now, I rebooted. After JAWS was loaded and the PC was ready, I >> >>tried the combo. This time, JAWS stayed silent. However, the second >> >>time I used it, JAWS came back up again. >> >> >> >>I'm not saying this is a problem, but I am curious if others are >> >>experiencing such a change. >> >> >> >>I have JAWS 15, although not the latest release and Win7 64-bit. >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> >>scrubbed... >> >>URL: >> >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme >> nts/>>20140905/1cadb645/attachment.html> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Jfw mailing list >> >>[email protected] >> >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jfw mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:57:23 -0400 > From: "david" <[email protected]> > To: "'david'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows > support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > Message-ID: <000001cfcc5f$e3fa8800$abef9800$@ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > hello; > > if your wanting to create shortcut fror, > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > 1, desktop; > > 2, ctrl+spacebar making sure there is no icon selected, > > 3, press applications key, or shift f10, > > up or down arrow and enter on, > new sub-menu, > > 4, arrow and enter on, new shortcut, > > your now being asked, > Type the location of the item: > here you would type in: > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > 5, tab next enter, > > here your being asked to give the shortcut a name, > you will see, > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > you can change this to killjaws, or whatever you wish, now tab finish, > press > enter. > > heck you could even create an hotkey if your little heart desires. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of david via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 2:46 PM > To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > hello; > > if your using jaws15, > you will find the jaws kill at: > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > if you really need to you could create shortcut to desktop, > > the windows-key+insert-key+f4=kil/unload jaws from memory. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:01 PM > To: Doris &Hubby Chris; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > It must be transferrable via merge, as it's still on my office machine, > and > I haven't got anything older than 13 on here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris &Hubby > Chris via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:11 PM > To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > which version is that found in? I did not find it with my jaws 13. > > Thanks much. > > Doris > > At 10:24 AM 9/8/2014, you wrote: >>Ted, >> >>The killjaws feature I use is an actual executable jfwkill.exe that was >>shipped with older versions of JAWS. It appears to still work, and I >>keep an icon on my desktop for that, and it's the only one starting >>with the letter "k". >> >>Haven't used the JAWS+Windows+F4 key combination in a long time. >> >>Dave Carlson >>Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and >>woodworker >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Dennis Clark" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support >>list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 04:53 AM >>Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >>Is that the combo also known as KillJAWS? I added that to my office >>desktop some years ago on advice from this list, but can't remember now >>how I did it. It's saved my neck more times than I can count, but I've >>never known it to come back on its own. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis >>Clark via Jfw >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:28 PM >>To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >>Is this new to Jaws V15? >>Thanks >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows >>support list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:06 PM >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >> > It's my understanding that that's the beauty of Jawskey plus windows >> > key plus f4. it unscrambles JAWS' brain and brings it back. I love >> > this key stroke! >> > At 04:12 PM 9/5/2014, you wrote: >> >>In recent days, after I've closed JAWS with this key combo, there is >> >>the expected silence. But then, after less than a minute, JAWS comes >> >>up speaking again, saying, "JAWS is ready." >> >> >> >>I'd suspected this behavior, but moved on. Today it became inescapable. >> >>Just now, I rebooted. After JAWS was loaded and the PC was ready, I >> >>tried the combo. This time, JAWS stayed silent. However, the second >> >>time I used it, JAWS came back up again. >> >> >> >>I'm not saying this is a problem, but I am curious if others are >> >>experiencing such a change. >> >> >> >>I have JAWS 15, although not the latest release and Win7 64-bit. >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> >>scrubbed... >> >>URL: >> >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme >> nts/>>20140905/1cadb645/attachment.html> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Jfw mailing list >> >>[email protected] >> >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jfw mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:56:40 -0700 > From: "Charles Krugman" <[email protected]> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: McAfee > Message-ID: <F6D1AE2455584E2E8273FC3918237439@Spike> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It came with my new computer and I used the trial version for a month and > was pleasantly surprised to find that this particular versionMcAfee Live > Safe was totally accessible and found it worked well. If I didn't already > have a paid subscription to AVG I would have probably bought it. > Chuck > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimsan via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:27 AM > To: jfw > Subject: McAfee > > Thoughts on McAfee, as it relates to jfw? > > > > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure, > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140908/7d8e9e5b/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:43:27 -0700 > From: "Dave 'Farfar' Carlson" <[email protected]> > To: "david" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > Message-ID: <0B73B13B840849CCAFDC52B06EDA74A0@SJDCARLSON> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yep, that's exactly the pathname I gave in my first reply to this thread. > > Dave Carlson > Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and > woodworker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows > support list.'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 11:45 AM > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > > hello; > > if your using jaws15, > you will find the jaws kill at: > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > if you really need to you could create shortcut to desktop, > > the windows-key+insert-key+f4=kil/unload jaws from memory. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:01 PM > To: Doris &Hubby Chris; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > It must be transferrable via merge, as it's still on my office machine, > and > I haven't got anything older than 13 on here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris &Hubby > Chris via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:11 PM > To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > which version is that found in? I did not find it with my jaws 13. > > Thanks much. > > Doris > > At 10:24 AM 9/8/2014, you wrote: >>Ted, >> >>The killjaws feature I use is an actual executable jfwkill.exe that was >>shipped with older versions of JAWS. It appears to still work, and I >>keep an icon on my desktop for that, and it's the only one starting >>with the letter "k". >> >>Haven't used the JAWS+Windows+F4 key combination in a long time. >> >>Dave Carlson >>Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and >>woodworker >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Dennis Clark" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support >>list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 04:53 AM >>Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >>Is that the combo also known as KillJAWS? I added that to my office >>desktop some years ago on advice from this list, but can't remember now >>how I did it. It's saved my neck more times than I can count, but I've >>never known it to come back on its own. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis >>Clark via Jfw >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:28 PM >>To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >>Is this new to Jaws V15? >>Thanks >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows >>support list." <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:06 PM >>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> >> > It's my understanding that that's the beauty of Jawskey plus windows >> > key plus f4. it unscrambles JAWS' brain and brings it back. I love >> > this key stroke! >> > At 04:12 PM 9/5/2014, you wrote: >> >>In recent days, after I've closed JAWS with this key combo, there is >> >>the expected silence. But then, after less than a minute, JAWS comes >> >>up speaking again, saying, "JAWS is ready." >> >> >> >>I'd suspected this behavior, but moved on. Today it became inescapable. >> >>Just now, I rebooted. After JAWS was loaded and the PC was ready, I >> >>tried the combo. This time, JAWS stayed silent. However, the second >> >>time I used it, JAWS came back up again. >> >> >> >>I'm not saying this is a problem, but I am curious if others are >> >>experiencing such a change. >> >> >> >>I have JAWS 15, although not the latest release and Win7 64-bit. >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> >>scrubbed... >> >>URL: >> >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme >> nts/>>20140905/1cadb645/attachment.html> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Jfw mailing list >> >>[email protected] >> >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Jfw mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:58:02 -0600 > From: John Martyn <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], "The Jaws for Windows support list." > <[email protected]>, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > WebAIM > Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Thunderbird Blind 3.0 official release > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi all, > Thanks to the help of the jaws scripting list and Dennis Long, I have > completed JAWS 15 scripts for thunderbird blind. These scripts are very > powerful because they use the UIA scripting in JAWS 15. It is easier to > hear a demo than read all about it, so here is the audio demo of the > scripts in action. > http://www.ThunderbirdBlind.com/demo.mp3 > Hope you enjoy! > The site is at: > http://www.ThunderbirdBlind.com > Cheers, > John Martyn > DoItBlind.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:22:36 -0400 > From: Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> > To: david <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > Message-ID: > <CAC+YXVLXXDBAXTTk_z=BiMjoLap1Wing9JVW0SjGY2=koir...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks for these most excellent instructions. > > Kimber > > On 9/9/14, david via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >> hello; >> >> if your wanting to create shortcut fror, >> >> "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" >> >> 1, desktop; >> >> 2, ctrl+spacebar making sure there is no icon selected, >> >> 3, press applications key, or shift f10, >> >> up or down arrow and enter on, >> new sub-menu, >> >> 4, arrow and enter on, new shortcut, >> >> your now being asked, >> Type the location of the item: >> here you would type in: >> >> "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" >> >> 5, tab next enter, >> >> here your being asked to give the shortcut a name, >> you will see, >> "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" >> you can change this to killjaws, or whatever you wish, now tab finish, >> press >> enter. >> >> heck you could even create an hotkey if your little heart desires. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of david via >> Jfw >> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 2:46 PM >> To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' >> Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> hello; >> >> if your using jaws15, >> you will find the jaws kill at: >> >> "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" >> >> if you really need to you could create shortcut to desktop, >> >> the windows-key+insert-key+f4=kil/unload jaws from memory. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted >> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw >> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 2:01 PM >> To: Doris &Hubby Chris; The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> It must be transferrable via merge, as it's still on my office machine, >> and >> I haven't got anything older than 13 on here. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris >> &Hubby >> Chris via Jfw >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:11 PM >> To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >> >> which version is that found in? I did not find it with my jaws 13. >> >> Thanks much. >> >> Doris >> >> At 10:24 AM 9/8/2014, you wrote: >>>Ted, >>> >>>The killjaws feature I use is an actual executable jfwkill.exe that was >>>shipped with older versions of JAWS. It appears to still work, and I >>>keep an icon on my desktop for that, and it's the only one starting >>>with the letter "k". >>> >>>Haven't used the JAWS+Windows+F4 key combination in a long time. >>> >>>Dave Carlson >>>Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and >>>woodworker >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>>To: "Dennis Clark" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support >>>list." <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 04:53 AM >>>Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >>> >>> >>>Is that the combo also known as KillJAWS? I added that to my office >>>desktop some years ago on advice from this list, but can't remember now >>>how I did it. It's saved my neck more times than I can count, but I've >>>never known it to come back on its own. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis >>>Clark via Jfw >>>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:28 PM >>>To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. >>>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >>> >>>Is this new to Jaws V15? >>>Thanks >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> >>>To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows >>>support list." <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:06 PM >>>Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 >>> >>> >>> > It's my understanding that that's the beauty of Jawskey plus windows >>> > key plus f4. it unscrambles JAWS' brain and brings it back. I love >>> > this key stroke! >>> > At 04:12 PM 9/5/2014, you wrote: >>> >>In recent days, after I've closed JAWS with this key combo, there is >>> >>the expected silence. But then, after less than a minute, JAWS comes >>> >>up speaking again, saying, "JAWS is ready." >>> >> >>> >>I'd suspected this behavior, but moved on. Today it became >>> >> inescapable. >>> >>Just now, I rebooted. After JAWS was loaded and the PC was ready, I >>> >>tried the combo. This time, JAWS stayed silent. However, the second >>> >>time I used it, JAWS came back up again. >>> >> >>> >>I'm not saying this is a problem, but I am curious if others are >>> >>experiencing such a change. >>> >> >>> >>I have JAWS 15, although not the latest release and Win7 64-bit. >>> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>> >>scrubbed... >>> >>URL: >>> >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachme >>> nts/>>20140905/1cadb645/attachment.html> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>> >>Jfw mailing list >>> >>[email protected] >>> >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Jfw mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Jfw mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Jfw mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Jfw mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > > > -- > Kimberly > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:12:55 -0400 > From: "Johna Lynn Nordin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: question about jaws with Microsoft excel 2013 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone can help with my following > question: > > I use jaws 15 and Microsoft excel 2013 at work and am wondering why the f2 > key no longer works to edit text in a cell? When I press f2 it no longer > lets me arrow through the text for copying and pasting purposes. Is this > an > incorrect jaws setting or is this a problem with Microsoft excel 2013? > > Thanks for any help you can provide > > Johna Lynn > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/8b777689/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:20:51 -0400 > From: "Bissett, Tom" <[email protected]> > To: Johna Lynn Nordin <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows > support list. <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: question about jaws with Microsoft excel 2013 > Message-ID: > > <c4c4275394269d4c92ad935948d25b9602babf4...@bmfgexcmbx06.adroot.bmogc.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am using excel 2010 but experience the same problem. I found I have to > maximize the window to get jaws to read the cell when in edit. > Tom Bisset > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johna Lynn > Nordin via Jfw > Sent: September 10, 2014 3:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: question about jaws with Microsoft excel 2013 > > Hello, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone can help with my following > question: > > I use jaws 15 and Microsoft excel 2013 at work and am wondering why the f2 > key no longer works to edit text in a cell? When I press f2 it no longer > lets me arrow through the text for copying and pasting purposes. Is this an > incorrect jaws setting or is this a problem with Microsoft excel 2013? > > Thanks for any help you can provide > > Johna Lynn > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/8b777689/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:29:53 -0700 > From: "George B" <[email protected]> > To: "'Johna Lynn Nordin'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for > Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: question about jaws with Microsoft excel 2013 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > John, > > All microft programs run most efficiently in maxamom view. So in saying > this I just start using excel and 2 tips for you are if you do f2 and you > can not arrow, or if you have excel set up to give you the cell > cordanances, > i.e. a:1 meaning collum a and row 1 and you do not get this eather when you > move between cells, the window is not maxed. > > Just do the steps to max a window and all is good > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johna Lynn > Nordin via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:13 > To: [email protected] > Subject: question about jaws with Microsoft excel 2013 > > Hello, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone can help with my following > question: > > I use jaws 15 and Microsoft excel 2013 at work and am wondering why the f2 > key no longer works to edit text in a cell? When I press f2 it no longer > lets me arrow through the text for copying and pasting purposes. Is this > an > incorrect jaws setting or is this a problem with Microsoft excel 2013? > > Thanks for any help you can provide > > Johna Lynn > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201409 > 10/8b777689/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:06:45 -0400 > From: "Tom Macha " <[email protected]> > To: "Dave 'Farfar' Carlson" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for > Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Jaws and audo dilers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello it is Tom, I am enquireing as to if Jaws and audo dilers play nice > with each other? Thanks Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson via Jfw > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:28 AM > To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson ; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > Ted, > > Further, here's the command string in my KillJAWS desktop shortcut: > > "C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Runtime JAWS\15.0\JFWKill.exe" > > Again I make sure to have a copy of jfwkill.exe in that folder, possibly > copied from an earlier version of JAWS. > > Dave Carlson > Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and > woodworker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave 'Farfar' Carlson via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 07:24 AM > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > > Ted, > > The killjaws feature I use is an actual executable jfwkill.exe that was > shipped with older versions of JAWS. It appears to still work, and I keep > an > icon on my desktop for that, and it's the only one starting with the letter > "k". > > Haven't used the JAWS+Windows+F4 key combination in a long time. > > Dave Carlson > Happy to be an Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and > woodworker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "Dennis Clark" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 04:53 AM > Subject: RE: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > > Is that the combo also known as KillJAWS? I added that to my office > desktop > some years ago on advice from this list, but can't remember now how I did > it. It's saved my neck more times than I can count, but I've never known > it > to come back on its own. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark > via Jfw > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:28 PM > To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > Is this new to Jaws V15? > Thanks > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows > support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: New behavior when unloading JAWS with JAWS key+Win key+F4 > > >> It's my understanding that that's the beauty of Jawskey plus windows >> key plus f4. it unscrambles JAWS' brain and brings it back. I love >> this key stroke! >> At 04:12 PM 9/5/2014, you wrote: >>>In recent days, after I've closed JAWS with this key combo, there is >>>the expected silence. But then, after less than a minute, JAWS comes >>>up speaking again, saying, "JAWS is ready." >>> >>>I'd suspected this behavior, but moved on. Today it became inescapable. >>>Just now, I rebooted. After JAWS was loaded and the PC was ready, I >>>tried the combo. This time, JAWS stayed silent. However, the second >>>time I used it, JAWS came back up again. >>> >>>I'm not saying this is a problem, but I am curious if others are >>>experiencing such a change. >>> >>>I have JAWS 15, although not the latest release and Win7 64-bit. >>>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>scrubbed... >>>URL: >>><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ >>>20140905/1cadb645/attachment.html> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Jfw mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:06:34 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: good free PDF converter > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > hi > today my converter robo Braille quit working what do I do good for you > PDFConverter set work witches was > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:39:15 -0700 > From: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]> > To: "Jaws List" <[email protected]> > Subject: file path > Message-ID: <4C41C7C592F942D2BC4A72B304D11607@TomPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search result > done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:09:28 -0500 > From: "Bob W" <[email protected]> > To: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <3D85D443A6594C66935AA3CD13487DCE@BobPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > If I understand your question, > When you find the program, file or document you want the path for: > Press shift+f10, then arrow down to "copy path" and hit enter. Now the path > > is in your clipboard. > > Be aware that it has quotes around it so you can't just paste it. > > Hope this is what you want. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T. Civitello via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:39 PM > To: Jaws List > Subject: file path > > Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search result > > done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who don't. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:34:33 -0700 > From: "Bill White" <[email protected]> > To: "Bob W" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <30C84E94348F4B7E82BBFBB80C4F87E7@ca33ed4f9fe046e> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > What I think Tom wants, Bob, is to get the search result to actually say the > > file path. > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob W via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: file path > > >> If I understand your question, >> When you find the program, file or document you want the path for: >> Press shift+f10, then arrow down to "copy path" and hit enter. Now the >> path >> is in your clipboard. >> >> Be aware that it has quotes around it so you can't just paste it. >> >> Hope this is what you want. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: T. Civitello via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:39 PM >> To: Jaws List >> Subject: file path >> >> Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search >> result >> done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who >> don't. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 10398 (20140910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 10398 (20140910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:44:15 -0700 > From: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]> > To: "Bill White" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for > Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <3638194F81F34D398DBBF52D8EC4997D@TomPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > That's it! Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill White via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:34 PM > To: Bob W ; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: file path > > What I think Tom wants, Bob, is to get the search result to actually say > the > file path. > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob W via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: file path > > >> If I understand your question, >> When you find the program, file or document you want the path for: >> Press shift+f10, then arrow down to "copy path" and hit enter. Now the >> path >> is in your clipboard. >> >> Be aware that it has quotes around it so you can't just paste it. >> >> Hope this is what you want. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: T. Civitello via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:39 PM >> To: Jaws List >> Subject: file path >> >> Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search >> result >> done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who >> don't. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 10398 (20140910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > > database 10398 (20140910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 20:49:28 -0500 > From: "Bob W" <[email protected]> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <8D8893275A7F4E4799A46FD31797025B@BobPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Okay, now I understand. > > Unfortunately I don't know how to do it. > > Frankly, I think the search feature in windows 7 or 8 is pretty lame. JMO. > > Bob > > Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: T. Civitello via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:44 PM > To: Bill White ; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: file path > > That's it! Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill White via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:34 PM > To: Bob W ; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: file path > > What I think Tom wants, Bob, is to get the search result to actually say > the > file path. > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob W via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "T. Civitello" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: file path > > >> If I understand your question, >> When you find the program, file or document you want the path for: >> Press shift+f10, then arrow down to "copy path" and hit enter. Now the >> path >> is in your clipboard. >> >> Be aware that it has quotes around it so you can't just paste it. >> >> Hope this is what you want. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: T. Civitello via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:39 PM >> To: Jaws List >> Subject: file path >> >> Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search >> result >> done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who >> don't. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 10398 (20140910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 10398 (20140910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who don't. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:07:17 -0400 > From: j Bron <[email protected]> > To: "'T. Civitello'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows > support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: file path > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Unsubscribe me now! I tried goingf through the website. There used to be > an email address that I could write to. Just send me the address or > unsubscribe me now. Judith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T. Civitello > via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:39 PM > To: Jaws List > Subject: file path > > Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search > result > done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201409 > 10/a49ef591/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:29:39 -0500 > From: "Michael Mote" <[email protected]> > To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: JAWS using Web X. > Message-ID: <000001cfcdd5$35495440$9fdbfcc0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone has had success with JAWS using Web > X. As far as I know it doesn't work very well with JAWS. Is that still > the > case? > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140911/f38437cd/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:56:14 -0700 > From: "Bill White" <[email protected]> > To: "j Bron" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <374DE5E92A9949DCAE38E87B2B38DBE1@ca33ed4f9fe046e> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, Judith. Use the following method to unsubscribe. > > To unsubscribe from the jfw mailing list: > > > > Copy and paste the following email address into the "to:" edit field > > > > [email protected] > > > > In the subject line, type the word "unsubscribe", (without the quotation > > marks), then send the message. > > > > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j Bron via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "'T. Civitello'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows support > list.'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: file path > > >> Unsubscribe me now! I tried goingf through the website. There used to >> be >> an email address that I could write to. Just send me the address or >> unsubscribe me now. Judith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T. >> Civitello >> via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:39 PM >> To: Jaws List >> Subject: file path >> >> Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search >> result >> done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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Just did it. Judith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill White [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:56 PM > To: j Bron; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: file path > > Hi, Judith. Use the following method to unsubscribe. > > To unsubscribe from the jfw mailing list: > > > > Copy and paste the following email address into the "to:" edit field > > > > [email protected] > > > > In the subject line, type the word "unsubscribe", (without the quotation > > marks), then send the message. > > > > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j Bron via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "'T. Civitello'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows support > list.'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: file path > > >> Unsubscribe me now! I tried goingf through the website. There used >> to be an email address that I could write to. Just send me the >> address or unsubscribe me now. Judith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T. >> Civitello via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:39 PM >> To: Jaws List >> Subject: file path >> >> Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search >> result done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ >> 201409 >> 10/a49ef591/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 10403 (20140911) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 10403 (20140911) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:52:16 -0700 > From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]> > To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: file path > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good grief, why did she want to leave us so badly. > > Good people here like mike b, Adrian, david far far and the mod that I > never > see. > "Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure, > loyalty and persistence." Colin Powell > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of j Bron via > Jfw > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:07 AM > To: 'T. Civitello'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Subject: RE: file path > > Unsubscribe me now! I tried goingf through the website. There used to be > an email address that I could write to. Just send me the address or > unsubscribe me now. Judith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of T. Civitello > via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:39 PM > To: Jaws List > Subject: file path > > Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search > result > done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201409 > 10/a49ef591/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:16:47 -0400 > From: j Bron <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: unsubscribe > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140911/34a7f9d2/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:23:38 -0700 > From: "Mike B." <[email protected]> > To: "JFW List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Jaws16 Beta Download Links > Message-ID: <83A6FF3E99144388A6CF9C123CAA2912@XPPRO> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All, > > Below are the new Jaws16 Beta download links: > > 32 Bit: > > http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.1102ENU-32bit.exe > > 64 Bit: > > http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.1102ENU-64bit.exe > > Take care. > Mike > This email was sent from my, iBarstool. > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/sked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140911/d71a1f9b/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:01:03 -0500 > From: Ed Marquette <[email protected]> > To: Michael Mote <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: JAWS using Web X. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Actually, it works pretty well. You just have to figure out which options to > use to get into it. > You have to be the person doing the presentation. If someone else is > presenting, it is useless. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Michael Mote via Jfw <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone has had success with JAWS using >> Web >> X. As far as I know it doesn't work very well with JAWS. Is that still >> the >> case? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140911/f38437cd/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:23:35 -0700 > From: "brian albriton" <[email protected]> > To: "'Ed Marquette'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows > support list.'" <[email protected]>, "'Michael Mote'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Last Pass and Jaws > Message-ID: <6D384F0ABD994723BFE4EAE2202DCCF4@UserVAIO> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Has anyboyd installed last pass and got it to work. Most of it seems > accessible accept that part that makes it actually work. > I haven't got it to automatically input the login information for bard as a > for instance. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:26:32 +0200 > From: Aidan <[email protected]> > To: brian albriton <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Last Pass and Jaws > Message-ID: > <cafgmphovrgnxmu+egome3r2rqofmhuza0x3hssparwaren7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > You might try 1password instead. > > On 12/09/2014, brian albriton via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >> Has anyboyd installed last pass and got it to work. Most of it seems >> accessible accept that part that makes it actually work. >> I haven't got it to automatically input the login information for bard as >> a >> for instance. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > > > -- > Facebook: m.facebook.com/aidan.maher92 > Skype: andries4451 > Twitter: smarttalk7 > Audioboo: www.audioboo.com/DjSpotlight > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:01:57 -0500 > From: "Michael Mote" <[email protected]> > To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Setting up Outlook 2013 with JAWS. > Message-ID: <000001cfceab$44fca050$cef5e0f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi everyone! I'm helping someone set up Outlook 2013 for the first time. > I > was hoping someone could send me some instructions for this. I've never > used Outlook 2013, and need to learn too. If anyone has any suggestions, I > would appreciate it very much. > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/49cbba97/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:03:53 -0400 > From: David Goldfield <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: <586955B99788EA4CB35AB664BAF86E9360225CE914@ASB> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is a > complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. > I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using Access 2010 > and things seemed to read well with no problem. The database opened with a > main menu and each item read properly when the tab key was pressed, for > items such as "1 enter data" "2, perform search", etc. > The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key just says > the number of the item, followed by the word "button" without reading the > prompt or label associated with that button. The prompt creator will not > work in this database. Using screen refresh and maximizing the window did > not help. The user's theme was set to Dell: I changed it to windows Classic > and windows 7 Basic but nothing worked. What is now a bit odd is that > loading JAWS 14 produces the same results, where the tab key just says > "button" without reading the prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to read the > prompts but I'm curious to know if anyone could suggest other things I could > try. Pressing insert-Q verifies that Access 2010 scripts are loaded. > Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. > > > > > David Goldfield > Computer Technology Instructor > 919 Walnut Street > 4th Floor > Philadelphia, PA 19107 > > 215-627-0600 ext 3277 > FAX: 215-922-0692 > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> > > > Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired > population since 1874. > > www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-Blind/234389409941928> > www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1639 bytes > Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1769 bytes > Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 30 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:57:20 -0500 > From: Anna Byrne <[email protected]> > To: David Goldfield <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > when JAWS wouldn't read Access for me, I used Thunder. the voice is > terrible, but it read the prompts. > At 01:03 PM 9/12/2014, you wrote: >>I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is >>a complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. >>I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using >>Access 2010 and things seemed to read well with no problem. The >>database opened with a main menu and each item read properly when >>the tab key was pressed, for items such as "1 enter data" "2, >>perform search", etc. >>The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key >>just says the number of the item, followed by the word "button" >>without reading the prompt or label associated with that >>button. The prompt creator will not work in this database. Using >>screen refresh and maximizing the window did not help. The user's >>theme was set to Dell: I changed it to windows Classic and windows 7 >>Basic but nothing worked. What is now a bit odd is that loading >>JAWS 14 produces the same results, where the tab key just says >>"button" without reading the prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to >>read the prompts but I'm curious to know if anyone could suggest >>other things I could try. Pressing insert-Q verifies that Access >>2010 scripts are loaded. >>Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. >> >> >> >> >>David Goldfield >>Computer Technology Instructor >>919 Walnut Street >>4th Floor >>Philadelphia, PA 19107 >> >>215-627-0600 ext 3277 >>FAX: 215-922-0692 >> >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> >> >> >>Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired >>population since 1874. >> >> >>www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-Blind/234389409941928> >> >>www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1639 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1769 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 31 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:24:15 +0000 > From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]> > To: Anna Byrne <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support > list. <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Oh Lord, sounds like 11-12 revisited. I have used Access with 15 with no > problems though. As I recall, I coarsened the verbosity to get it to read > field names several years ago, but that's all. > > Ted > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via > Jfw > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:57 PM > To: David Goldfield; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > > when JAWS wouldn't read Access for me, I used Thunder. the voice is > terrible, but it read the prompts. > At 01:03 PM 9/12/2014, you wrote: >>I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is a >>complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. >>I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using Access >>2010 and things seemed to read well with no problem. The database >>opened with a main menu and each item read properly when the tab key >>was pressed, for items such as "1 enter data" "2, perform search", etc. >>The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key just >>says the number of the item, followed by the word "button" >>without reading the prompt or label associated with that button. The >>prompt creator will not work in this database. Using screen refresh >>and maximizing the window did not help. The user's theme was set to >>Dell: I changed it to windows Classic and windows 7 Basic but nothing >>worked. What is now a bit odd is that loading JAWS 14 produces the >>same results, where the tab key just says "button" without reading the >>prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to read the prompts but I'm curious >>to know if anyone could suggest other things I could try. Pressing >>insert-Q verifies that Access >>2010 scripts are loaded. >>Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. >> >> >> >> >>David Goldfield >>Computer Technology Instructor >>919 Walnut Street >>4th Floor >>Philadelphia, PA 19107 >> >>215-627-0600 ext 3277 >>FAX: 215-922-0692 >> >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> >> >> >>Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired >>population since 1874. >> >> >>www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-B >>lind/234389409941928> www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1639 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1769 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 32 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:33:21 -0500 > From: Anna Byrne <[email protected]> > To: David Goldfield <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > It sounds like something in Access itself changed. Could screen > density have changed? Is the screen maximized? sometimes the > computer randomly displays things differently and poor JAWS doesn't > know what to do. > At 01:03 PM 9/12/2014, you wrote: >>I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is >>a complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. >>I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using >>Access 2010 and things seemed to read well with no problem. The >>database opened with a main menu and each item read properly when >>the tab key was pressed, for items such as "1 enter data" "2, >>perform search", etc. >>The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key >>just says the number of the item, followed by the word "button" >>without reading the prompt or label associated with that >>button. The prompt creator will not work in this database. Using >>screen refresh and maximizing the window did not help. The user's >>theme was set to Dell: I changed it to windows Classic and windows 7 >>Basic but nothing worked. What is now a bit odd is that loading >>JAWS 14 produces the same results, where the tab key just says >>"button" without reading the prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to >>read the prompts but I'm curious to know if anyone could suggest >>other things I could try. Pressing insert-Q verifies that Access >>2010 scripts are loaded. >>Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. >> >> >> >> >>David Goldfield >>Computer Technology Instructor >>919 Walnut Street >>4th Floor >>Philadelphia, PA 19107 >> >>215-627-0600 ext 3277 >>FAX: 215-922-0692 >> >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> >> >> >>Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired >>population since 1874. >> >> >>www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-Blind/234389409941928> >> >>www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1639 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1769 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 33 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:52:13 -0400 > From: David Goldfield <[email protected]> > To: Anna Byrne <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support > list. <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: <586955B99788EA4CB35AB664BAF86E9360225CE939@ASB> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Anna, > Thanks so much for your suggestions. > The window is maximized and the user's screen resolution is identical to > mine and I have no issues with the database, even with a fresh set of Access > scripts from the 2010 beta. > My next step is to compare some of the settings in my version of Access to > the ones on the user's machine, so your thought about settings is one I'm > currently pursuing. Thank you again, though. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anna Byrne [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 3:33 PM > To: David Goldfield; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > > It sounds like something in Access itself changed. Could screen density > have changed? Is the screen maximized? sometimes the computer randomly > displays things differently and poor JAWS doesn't know what to do. > At 01:03 PM 9/12/2014, you wrote: >>I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is a >>complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. >>I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using Access >>2010 and things seemed to read well with no problem. The database >>opened with a main menu and each item read properly when the tab key >>was pressed, for items such as "1 enter data" "2, perform search", etc. >>The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key just >>says the number of the item, followed by the word "button" >>without reading the prompt or label associated with that button. The >>prompt creator will not work in this database. Using screen refresh >>and maximizing the window did not help. The user's theme was set to >>Dell: I changed it to windows Classic and windows 7 Basic but nothing >>worked. What is now a bit odd is that loading JAWS 14 produces the >>same results, where the tab key just says "button" without reading the >>prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to read the prompts but I'm curious >>to know if anyone could suggest other things I could try. Pressing >>insert-Q verifies that Access >>2010 scripts are loaded. >>Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. >> >> >> >> >>David Goldfield >>Computer Technology Instructor >>919 Walnut Street >>4th Floor >>Philadelphia, PA 19107 >> >>215-627-0600 ext 3277 >>FAX: 215-922-0692 >> >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> >> >> >>Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired >>population since 1874. >> >> >>www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-B >>lind/234389409941928> www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1639 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1769 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 34 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:08:50 -0600 > From: "Cy Selfridge" <[email protected]> > To: "'Lisle, Ted \(CHFS DMS\)'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for > Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > Message-ID: <007b01cfcec5$5ee4dd10$1cae9730$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Ted, > Nice thing about JAWS is that old problems will crop up in a later release > but at least we have seen them before and have figured out a work around. > (LOLLOLLOL) > Cy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 1:24 PM > To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > > Oh Lord, sounds like 11-12 revisited. I have used Access with 15 with no > problems though. As I recall, I coarsened the verbosity to get it to read > field names several years ago, but that's all. > > Ted > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne > via > Jfw > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:57 PM > To: David Goldfield; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Using JAWS 15 with Microsoft Access 2010 > > when JAWS wouldn't read Access for me, I used Thunder. the voice is > terrible, but it read the prompts. > At 01:03 PM 9/12/2014, you wrote: >>I realize that the issue with Microsoft access and screen readers is a >>complex topic. Here's the situation I am involved with. >>I have a user who used JAWS 14 with a customized database using Access >>2010 and things seemed to read well with no problem. The database >>opened with a main menu and each item read properly when the tab key >>was pressed, for items such as "1 enter data" "2, perform search", etc. >>The user recently was migrated to JAWS 15 and pressing the tab key just >>says the number of the item, followed by the word "button" >>without reading the prompt or label associated with that button. The >>prompt creator will not work in this database. Using screen refresh >>and maximizing the window did not help. The user's theme was set to >>Dell: I changed it to windows Classic and windows 7 Basic but nothing >>worked. What is now a bit odd is that loading JAWS 14 produces the >>same results, where the tab key just says "button" without reading the >>prompt. We can use the JAWS cursor to read the prompts but I'm curious >>to know if anyone could suggest other things I could try. Pressing >>insert-Q verifies that Access >>2010 scripts are loaded. >>Thank you in advance for anything you can suggest. >> >> >> >> >>David Goldfield >>Computer Technology Instructor >>919 Walnut Street >>4th Floor >>Philadelphia, PA 19107 >> >>215-627-0600 ext 3277 >>FAX: 215-922-0692 >> >>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>www.asb.org<http://www.asb.org> >> >> >>Serving Philadelphia's and the nation's blind and visually impaired >>population since 1874. >> >> >>www.asb.org<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Associated-Services-for-the-B >>lind/234389409941928> www.asb.org<http://twitter.com/ASBPhiladelphia> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.html> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1639 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 1.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment.jpg> >>-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>scrubbed... >>Name: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>Type: image/jpeg >>Size: 1769 bytes >>Desc: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) 2.jpg >>URL: >><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/2 >>0140912/55a0a19a/attachment-0001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 35 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:13:16 -0700 > From: "ct" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Sample of Eloquence? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi. I know that FS has samples of the real speak voices on their website, > but is there a sample anywhere of Eloquence? Someone was asking me what my > computer voice sounded like and I couldn't find a sample of Eloquence on > their pages. Thanks. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/e4baf137/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 36 > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:37:27 -0400 > From: "Barbara Corner" <[email protected]> > To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Subject: installing t he Remote Access Flag > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My office purchased the JAWS remote access flag so I can use the Microsoft > remote access feature of Windows 7. > > How do I install the remote accessflag? > Thanks! > > Bar > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 37 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:43:48 -0400 > From: "Stan Bobbitt" <[email protected]> > To: "Bob W" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: file path > Message-ID: <DE80E55376F2458786B3E89713CFDEDE@GbobbittHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > New and very useful one for me, thanks a ton Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob W via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:09 PM > To: T. Civitello ; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: file path > > If I understand your question, > When you find the program, file or document you want the path for: > Press shift+f10, then arrow down to "copy path" and hit enter. Now the path > is in your clipboard. > > Be aware that it has quotes around it so you can't just paste it. > > Hope this is what you want. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T. Civitello via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:39 PM > To: Jaws List > Subject: file path > > Does anyone know how to get Win7 to show the file path for the search > result > done from the start menu? Thanks, Tom > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140910/a49ef591/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > One out of 10 people understand binary: those who do, and those who don't. > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 38 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 07:59:41 -0700 > From: "Mike B." <[email protected]> > To: "JFW List" <[email protected]> > Subject: J16, New Features > Message-ID: <ABEE54AEEBB34837B413A906D6174CEB@XPPRO> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > JAWS Command Search, a Built in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes > > JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many > commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window > title or > current line, while other commands are only available in specific > applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using JAWS > > with a refreshable > braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using > the controls on the braille display. To search for JAWS commands, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, > J to open the Search for Commands dialog. > > While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS users > > on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or > reading > the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that even > the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. > Certain > types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them > require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature > enables > you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke you > > do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search > criteria, > the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, including > > braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. > > For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas in > > Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching > through > all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and > pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, you > > can > open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type > "formulas" in the search edit box, and then view a list of all keystrokes > related > to working with formulas. Similarly, if you are browsing the Web and you > need to find the keystroke for displaying a list of headings on the current > > page > (INSERT+F6), you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window from Internet > > Explorer or Firefox, type "list headings" in the search edit box, and this > command will be the first result. > > To search for a command, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by J, to open the > Search for JAWS Commands window. Alternatively, you can choose Search for > Commands > from the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2) or the JAWS Utilities menu. > > An HTML window opens and places you in an edit field. If Forms Mode is set > to Auto or Semi-Auto, Forms Mode will be activated when the edit field gains > > focus. Begin typing the description of the command you are looking for and > the results area in the lower part of the window automatically updates. As > you type, the first result in the list is spoken automatically. Pressing > ENTER > turns off Forms Mode and places you on the first result. > > Note: If Auto Forms Mode is set to Manual, you will need to first press > ENTER to activate Forms Mode before you begin typing in the edit field. > > Since this is an HTML window, you can use standard reading commands to > review the search results. Each command name along with the most common > keystroke > used to perform it is displayed as a heading so you can quickly move between > > results using the H and SHIFT+H Navigation Quick Keys. When you locate the > command you want, press DOWN ARROW to move to a brief description of what > the command does, and any additional keystrokes that can be used to perform > > the > command. This will include non-layered, layered, and braille keystrokes. If > > a particular command offers a braille keystroke, but a braille display is > not > currently connected when you performed the search, the braille keystroke > will not be listed. > > Each JAWS command name and its associated keystrokes are also displayed as > links. This allows you to press ENTER on the command name heading, or any > of > the associated keystroke links to close the Search for JAWS Commands window > > and activate the command. You can also exit this window by pressing ALT+F4, > or the ESC key. > > Note: When performing a JAWS command search, the search results only > contains JAWS keystrokes. Microsoft Windows keystrokes, such as CTRL+A for > select > all, are not included in the search results. > > Standard Licenses Become "Home Use Edition for Non-Commercial Use" > > Semi-Auto Forms Mode > > The new Semi-Auto Forms Mode feature offers users the convenience of Auto > Forms Mode, but the benefits of manual operation. > > With Auto Forms Mode, JAWS automatically enters Forms Mode so you can > immediately begin typing when you move to an edit field using the ARROW > Keys, or > TAB and SHIFT+TAB. When you move away from the control, Forms Mode turns off > > and you resume navigating using the Virtual PC Cursor. This can be very > useful > especially for new and sighted users and is the default setting. When you > move to an edit field in Manual Forms Mode, you must first press ENTER to > turn > on Forms Mode, and then press NUM PAD PLUS or ESC to turn it off once you > are finished typing. > > With Semi-Auto Forms Mode, JAWS will only turn on Forms Mode automatically > when you move to an edit field using TAB or SHIFT+TAB. This allows you to > have > the benefits of Auto Forms Mode and still be able to read through a Web page > > using the ARROW keys and not be interrupted by Forms Mode turning on and > off. > Additionally, Navigation Quick Keys will not turn on Semi-Auto Forms Mode. > > To cycle through Manual, Auto, and Semi-Auto Forms Mode, use the Auto Forms > > Mode option in Quick Settings (INSERT+V) or the Select Forms Mode option in > Settings Center. > > Enhanced Convenient OCR for PDF Documents > > The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature now allows you to > > recognize entire PDF documents. Convenient OCR was first introduced in JAWS > 13 and allows you to recognize any images visible on the screen in order to > > access text contained in the image that would normally be inaccessible to > JAWS. > This included inaccessible PDF documents where you could only recognize the > > currently visible text. > > In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find any text to read, > > press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the letter > D. JAWS begins recognizing the text of the entire document featuring a very > > high degree of accuracy as the results are not affected by the current > screen > resolution, as they are when recognizing the current screen or window. After > > several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the Results > Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text or > select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications. For > example, > you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document, > which you could then save. > > Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is > recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the > Results Viewer. > This allows you to continue reading without interruption as the document is > > processed. > > Improved JAWS Performance with Microsoft Word 2013 using UIA > > New Research It Lookup Source for Tracking USPS Packages > > A new lookup source has been added to Research It that enables you to obtain > > progress and delivery status for packages shipped through the United States > Postal Service. > > list of 4 items > 1. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, R to open the Research It dialog box. > 2. In the edit combo box, enter a valid USPS tracking number and press TAB. > 3. Use the UP and DOWN ARROWS or first letter navigation to select USPS > Tracking and press ENTER. > 4. After a few seconds, the Results Viewer window opens and displays the > tracking information for your package. Press ESC to close the Results > Viewer. > list end > > Take care. > Mike > This email was sent from my, iBarstool. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140913/2e8ccd8f/attachment.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 39 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:10:27 -0400 > From: "Melissa Stott" <[email protected]> > To: "Mike B." <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: J16, New Features > Message-ID: <6FC1D0E0A9D1443B9573334BBBD4D004@MelissaHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks so much for this info! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike B. via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:59 AM > To: JFW List > Subject: J16, New Features > > JAWS Command Search, a Built in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes > > JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many > commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window > title or > current line, while other commands are only available in specific > applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using > JAWS > with a refreshable > braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using > the controls on the braille display. To search for JAWS commands, press > INSERT+SPACEBAR, > J to open the Search for Commands dialog. > > While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS > users > on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or > reading > the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that even > the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. > Certain > types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them > require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature > enables > you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke you > do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search > criteria, > the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, > including > braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. > > For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas > in > Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching > through > all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and > pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, you > can > open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type > "formulas" in the search edit box, and then view a list of all keystrokes > related > to working with formulas. Similarly, if you are browsing the Web and you > need to find the keystroke for displaying a list of headings on the current > page > (INSERT+F6), you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window from Internet > Explorer or Firefox, type "list headings" in the search edit box, and this > command will be the first result. > > To search for a command, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by J, to open the > Search for JAWS Commands window. Alternatively, you can choose Search for > Commands > from the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2) or the JAWS Utilities > menu. > An HTML window opens and places you in an edit field. If Forms Mode is set > to Auto or Semi-Auto, Forms Mode will be activated when the edit field > gains > focus. Begin typing the description of the command you are looking for and > the results area in the lower part of the window automatically updates. As > you type, the first result in the list is spoken automatically. Pressing > ENTER > turns off Forms Mode and places you on the first result. > > Note: If Auto Forms Mode is set to Manual, you will need to first press > ENTER to activate Forms Mode before you begin typing in the edit field. > > Since this is an HTML window, you can use standard reading commands to > review the search results. Each command name along with the most common > keystroke > used to perform it is displayed as a heading so you can quickly move > between > results using the H and SHIFT+H Navigation Quick Keys. When you locate the > command you want, press DOWN ARROW to move to a brief description of what > the command does, and any additional keystrokes that can be used to perform > the > command. This will include non-layered, layered, and braille keystrokes. If > a particular command offers a braille keystroke, but a braille display is > not > currently connected when you performed the search, the braille keystroke > will not be listed. > > Each JAWS command name and its associated keystrokes are also displayed as > links. This allows you to press ENTER on the command name heading, or any > of > the associated keystroke links to close the Search for JAWS Commands window > and activate the command. You can also exit this window by pressing ALT+F4, > or the ESC key. > > Note: When performing a JAWS command search, the search results only > contains JAWS keystrokes. Microsoft Windows keystrokes, such as CTRL+A for > select > all, are not included in the search results. > > Standard Licenses Become "Home Use Edition for Non-Commercial Use" > > Semi-Auto Forms Mode > > The new Semi-Auto Forms Mode feature offers users the convenience of Auto > Forms Mode, but the benefits of manual operation. > > With Auto Forms Mode, JAWS automatically enters Forms Mode so you can > immediately begin typing when you move to an edit field using the ARROW > Keys, or > TAB and SHIFT+TAB. When you move away from the control, Forms Mode turns > off > and you resume navigating using the Virtual PC Cursor. This can be very > useful > especially for new and sighted users and is the default setting. When you > move to an edit field in Manual Forms Mode, you must first press ENTER to > turn > on Forms Mode, and then press NUM PAD PLUS or ESC to turn it off once you > are finished typing. > > With Semi-Auto Forms Mode, JAWS will only turn on Forms Mode automatically > when you move to an edit field using TAB or SHIFT+TAB. This allows you to > have > the benefits of Auto Forms Mode and still be able to read through a Web > page > using the ARROW keys and not be interrupted by Forms Mode turning on and > off. > Additionally, Navigation Quick Keys will not turn on Semi-Auto Forms Mode. > > To cycle through Manual, Auto, and Semi-Auto Forms Mode, use the Auto Forms > Mode option in Quick Settings (INSERT+V) or the Select Forms Mode option in > Settings Center. > > Enhanced Convenient OCR for PDF Documents > > The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature now allows you > to > recognize entire PDF documents. Convenient OCR was first introduced in JAWS > 13 and allows you to recognize any images visible on the screen in order to > access text contained in the image that would normally be inaccessible to > JAWS. > This included inaccessible PDF documents where you could only recognize the > currently visible text. > > In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find any text to > read, > press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the letter > D. JAWS begins recognizing the text of the entire document featuring a very > high degree of accuracy as the results are not affected by the current > screen > resolution, as they are when recognizing the current screen or window. > After > several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the Results > Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text or > select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications. For > example, > you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document, > which you could then save. > > Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is > recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the > Results Viewer. > This allows you to continue reading without interruption as the document is > processed. > > Improved JAWS Performance with Microsoft Word 2013 using UIA > > New Research It Lookup Source for Tracking USPS Packages > > A new lookup source has been added to Research It that enables you to > obtain > progress and delivery status for packages shipped through the United States > Postal Service. > > list of 4 items > 1. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, R to open the Research It dialog box. > 2. In the edit combo box, enter a valid USPS tracking number and press TAB. > 3. Use the UP and DOWN ARROWS or first letter navigation to select USPS > Tracking and press ENTER. > 4. After a few seconds, the Results Viewer window opens and displays the > tracking information for your package. Press ESC to close the Results > Viewer. > list end > > Take care. > Mike > This email was sent from my, iBarstool. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140913/2e8ccd8f/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 40 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:12:48 -0700 > From: Feliciano Godoy <[email protected]> > To: Michael Mote <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Setting up Outlook 2013 with JAWS. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It's not difficult. What email provider do you have? > > Regards, Feliciano > > Sent from the Super-iPhone > >> On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Michael Mote via Jfw <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone! I'm helping someone set up Outlook 2013 for the first time. >> I >> was hoping someone could send me some instructions for this. I've never >> used Outlook 2013, and need to learn too. If anyone has any suggestions, >> I >> would appreciate it very much. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140912/49cbba97/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 41 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:19:13 -0800 > From: Soronel Haetir <[email protected]> > To: Melissa Stott <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows > support list." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: J16, New Features > Message-ID: > <cag5j88o9rnydpm5knnuibjezfax16eipctjf0hxwhszqjyf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The semi-auto forms mode sounds like it might actually be useful. And > I suppose for folks who use word that's a good thing, the rest of it > just sounds like more toys rather than fixing anything fundamental. > It will also be interesting to see if the PDF OCR recognizes spaces > better than the current implementation, because right now that sucks. > > On 9/13/14, Melissa Stott via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks so much for this info! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike B. via Jfw >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:59 AM >> To: JFW List >> Subject: J16, New Features >> >> JAWS Command Search, a Built in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes >> >> JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many >> commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window >> title or >> current line, while other commands are only available in specific >> applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using >> JAWS >> with a refreshable >> braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using >> the controls on the braille display. To search for JAWS commands, press >> INSERT+SPACEBAR, >> J to open the Search for Commands dialog. >> >> While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS >> users >> on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or >> reading >> the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that >> even >> the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. >> Certain >> types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them >> require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature >> enables >> you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke >> you >> do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search >> criteria, >> the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, >> including >> braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. >> >> For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas >> in >> Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching >> through >> all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and >> pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, >> you >> can >> open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type >> "formulas" in the search edit box, and then view a list of all keystrokes >> related >> to working with formulas. Similarly, if you are browsing the Web and you >> need to find the keystroke for displaying a list of headings on the >> current >> page >> (INSERT+F6), you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window from >> Internet >> Explorer or Firefox, type "list headings" in the search edit box, and >> this >> command will be the first result. >> >> To search for a command, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by J, to open >> the >> Search for JAWS Commands window. Alternatively, you can choose Search for >> Commands >> from the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2) or the JAWS Utilities >> menu. >> An HTML window opens and places you in an edit field. If Forms Mode is >> set >> to Auto or Semi-Auto, Forms Mode will be activated when the edit field >> gains >> focus. Begin typing the description of the command you are looking for >> and >> the results area in the lower part of the window automatically updates. >> As >> you type, the first result in the list is spoken automatically. Pressing >> ENTER >> turns off Forms Mode and places you on the first result. >> >> Note: If Auto Forms Mode is set to Manual, you will need to first press >> ENTER to activate Forms Mode before you begin typing in the edit field. >> >> Since this is an HTML window, you can use standard reading commands to >> review the search results. Each command name along with the most common >> keystroke >> used to perform it is displayed as a heading so you can quickly move >> between >> results using the H and SHIFT+H Navigation Quick Keys. When you locate >> the >> command you want, press DOWN ARROW to move to a brief description of what >> the command does, and any additional keystrokes that can be used to >> perform >> the >> command. This will include non-layered, layered, and braille keystrokes. >> If >> a particular command offers a braille keystroke, but a braille display is >> not >> currently connected when you performed the search, the braille keystroke >> will not be listed. >> >> Each JAWS command name and its associated keystrokes are also displayed >> as >> links. This allows you to press ENTER on the command name heading, or any >> of >> the associated keystroke links to close the Search for JAWS Commands >> window >> and activate the command. You can also exit this window by pressing >> ALT+F4, >> or the ESC key. >> >> Note: When performing a JAWS command search, the search results only >> contains JAWS keystrokes. Microsoft Windows keystrokes, such as CTRL+A >> for >> select >> all, are not included in the search results. >> >> Standard Licenses Become "Home Use Edition for Non-Commercial Use" >> >> Semi-Auto Forms Mode >> >> The new Semi-Auto Forms Mode feature offers users the convenience of Auto >> Forms Mode, but the benefits of manual operation. >> >> With Auto Forms Mode, JAWS automatically enters Forms Mode so you can >> immediately begin typing when you move to an edit field using the ARROW >> Keys, or >> TAB and SHIFT+TAB. When you move away from the control, Forms Mode turns >> off >> and you resume navigating using the Virtual PC Cursor. This can be very >> useful >> especially for new and sighted users and is the default setting. When you >> move to an edit field in Manual Forms Mode, you must first press ENTER to >> turn >> on Forms Mode, and then press NUM PAD PLUS or ESC to turn it off once you >> are finished typing. >> >> With Semi-Auto Forms Mode, JAWS will only turn on Forms Mode >> automatically >> when you move to an edit field using TAB or SHIFT+TAB. This allows you to >> have >> the benefits of Auto Forms Mode and still be able to read through a Web >> page >> using the ARROW keys and not be interrupted by Forms Mode turning on and >> off. >> Additionally, Navigation Quick Keys will not turn on Semi-Auto Forms >> Mode. >> >> To cycle through Manual, Auto, and Semi-Auto Forms Mode, use the Auto >> Forms >> Mode option in Quick Settings (INSERT+V) or the Select Forms Mode option >> in >> Settings Center. >> >> Enhanced Convenient OCR for PDF Documents >> >> The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature now allows you >> to >> recognize entire PDF documents. Convenient OCR was first introduced in >> JAWS >> 13 and allows you to recognize any images visible on the screen in order >> to >> access text contained in the image that would normally be inaccessible to >> JAWS. >> This included inaccessible PDF documents where you could only recognize >> the >> currently visible text. >> >> In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find any text to >> read, >> press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the >> letter >> D. JAWS begins recognizing the text of the entire document featuring a >> very >> high degree of accuracy as the results are not affected by the current >> screen >> resolution, as they are when recognizing the current screen or window. >> After >> several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the >> Results >> Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text or >> select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications. >> For >> example, >> you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document, >> which you could then save. >> >> Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is >> recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the >> Results Viewer. >> This allows you to continue reading without interruption as the document >> is >> processed. >> >> Improved JAWS Performance with Microsoft Word 2013 using UIA >> >> New Research It Lookup Source for Tracking USPS Packages >> >> A new lookup source has been added to Research It that enables you to >> obtain >> progress and delivery status for packages shipped through the United >> States >> Postal Service. >> >> list of 4 items >> 1. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, R to open the Research It dialog box. >> 2. In the edit combo box, enter a valid USPS tracking number and press >> TAB. >> 3. Use the UP and DOWN ARROWS or first letter navigation to select USPS >> Tracking and press ENTER. >> 4. After a few seconds, the Results Viewer window opens and displays the >> tracking information for your package. 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