I did not master it, but I think there is a process to enter revisions in a
different colour. If so, one could possibly identify multiple revisions with
Jaws text Analyzer.
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gudrun Brunot via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 1:46 PM
To: 'Hamid Hamraz' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blindpersons
independently format documents
Dear Lourdes: This is such a valuable endeavor. I have hair-raising examples
I could sent you, only, it would be illegal. I am a translator, and I
occasionally get assignments that involve working with track changes. We're
not just talking about someone deleting something that I wrote and replaced
it with another word. I'm talking about a text that another person
generated. The document was then translated. The originator decided to make
changes to the original. This revised document was submitted to the
translator, so he would apply the changes to the second version of the
target document. This was sent to me--that is, both the original document
with the originator's revisions, plus the second version of the translated
documents, with the revisions applied--we hope. My job was to be comparing
these two latest documents and make sure all the revisions had been applied.
In theory, there are ways of dealing with revisions in JAWS. You will hear
JAWS say "revision" as you read the text line by line, but there is nothing
that really shows exactly when a deletion starts/ends, when an insertion
starts/ends, and so on. Not to speak of deleted/inserted spaces. If you go
over the line character by character, you have some chance of seeing start
and end, but it gets hairy indeed if the revisions stretch over several
lines or pages. Changed formats are another headache. I have sent a letter
to Freedom Scientific, actually to one of its trainer, proposing that there
be settings in the braille display preferences to not only show that there
is an attribute (dots 7-8), but to differentiate them--dot 7 for deletions
or strike-through which is actually a font option as well, and dot 8 for
insertion. Trouble is, insertion is not a font option, so that has to be set
up in some other way.
Sound could also be used. I'd love an ascending piano two-note plink for
"start insertion" and a descending one for "end insertion." A two-part click
for "start deletion" and a reverse one for "end deletion". That could be a
sound scheme, and it should work whether you're reading the text from
beginning to end, line by line, word by word, etc.
So, I'm sorry I can't send you the documents from hell--they would be truly
fantastic examples of how things do not work for us. I asked the agency if I
could use them, and the answer was nope.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hamid Hamraz
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 10:29 PM
To: JFW; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons
independently format documents
Sorry folks if this is off-topic, but it will potentially be helpful to
all blind people.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lourdes Morales Villaverde
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons
independentlyformat documents
Greetings,
I'm part of a group of researchers from the University of California, Santa
Cruz. We are investigating ways in which tools may assist blind people with
tasks related to document formatting, and as a first step we need to gather
information about document formatting practices, errors and barriers of
blind persons. To do this, we need to collect a large number and variety of
documents that were created and formatted by blind persons (with at most
light perception) without help from sighted persons.
Please help us by providing your documents. As this is a National Science
Foundation study, we follow a strict rule of maintaining your and your
documents’ confidentiality and destroying documents after the study is
finished.
We will run a draw for two $50 Amazon gift certificate as a token of
appreciation for those who provide us with at least 5 documents created with
any word processor (Microsoft Word, Apple Pages, etc.). Please only send us
documents that are at least 3 pages long.
If you are interested in helping us, please email your documents to
[email protected]. Also, if you know someone who fits the criteria and might
be interested in helping us, please forward this email. We really appreciate
your help.
Thank you for you time.
Best regards,
--
Lourdes M. Morales Villaverde
Computer Science Ph.D. Student
Interactive Systems for Individuals with Special Needs Lab Baskin School of
Engineering University of California, Santa Cruz
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