When you come down to it, how do you read a picture anyway? Sure, you can extract text, but how do you read, for example, a photograph? Place a center fold on a scanner, and a male synth will emit a deep heart-felt sigh! All kidding aside, how could a screen reader convey meaningful information. I suppose a tactile display might be able to do it two-dimensionally.
Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:19 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Andre Jarreau Subject: RE: PDF documents I'm told the resulting Word doc is an exact replica of the original PDF including graphics and images, photos etc. However only the text of the document is visible to screenreaders. Wish graphics and images were readable by Jaws but they are not. I've heard there is soon to be released a device called something like BumpPad It's said to be a tactile I-Pad type device made for blind people. I don't know who makes it or when it will be released. It was described as being able to read graphs and possibly images. Don't know any more than that. I will for sure be looking for it when it hits the market. Andre -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:31 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Greg Nickel Subject: RE: PDF documents How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf? I have been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it does it as accurately as you say. because -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Andre Jarreau Subject: RE: PDF documents Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build. The pDF copied and pasted into Word2010 readily. It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were written in Word2010. Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality. Perhaps this one conversion was a fluke. For now I'm hopeful. Andre -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Subject: RE: PDF documents No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line. Of course, that was years ago, prior to AR 3.0. As for the image problem, that can be a bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with. I have an old Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, thanks to 16. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau via Jfw Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Andre Jarreau Subject: RE: PDF documents Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive document around. The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and reads with no errors. Or are you talking about an image being converted into text. That is often a mess as you say. Andre -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Subject: RE: PDF documents Andre's way is an oldie but a goody. I used it back before AR was accessible; but Bill is right, it won't do a thing for an image file. Even when it works, it's not the most attractive document around. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:31 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: PDF documents That's not going to work in this case, because all she is getting in the document are graphics. She may need to convert the document with OCR software such as OpenBook. she can also use the services of RoboBraille if she can upload the document. I'll include the link for her here. http://robobraille.org/ Bill White [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Jarreau via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Andre Jarreau" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:25 PM Subject: RE: PDF documents > Another possible way. I did this yesterday. Opened a 245 page PDF. > Then > I > selected all using control-A. Then copied and pasted directly into a > blank Word doc. Then saved the Word Doc under the book title name. > Now it opens in Word remarkably fast and reads very well. It might be > searchable. > Hope > this helps. > > I use latest J16, Office and Word 2010 on my I5 Dell laptop. > > Best > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann > Byrne via Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:57 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Ann Byrne > Subject: Re: PDF documents > > If you have JAWS 16, have it convert the document for you. Press > insert-spacebar, then the letter o for optical character recognition, > then d for document, and let it run. When JAWS has finished, the > document is not only readable, but it can be copied and saved into > another form, such as Word or text. > > good luck! > At 08:30 PM 7/15/2015, you wrote: >>My office has a program that is supposed to convert pdf documents to >>searchable text. The issue is that my sighted colleague said that >>she could do a search of this one large document and find different >>words in > it. >>However JAWS just read "graphic" Graphic" and gave me some numbers of >>the graphics. 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