Probably the interest in a brand new, fresh operating system? I would have
fbeen very surprised, and disappointed,  if Windows 10 wouldn't have been
discussed on this list. When I come across threads I'm not interested in, I
simply delete them without opening them.

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of douglas
richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

must this thread go on forever?!  it's a tedious task to go through all 
the messages in this conversation and delete the short ones.  once it 
started two days ago, what's keeping it going for so long?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
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5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
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On 8/10/2015 9:31 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
> Dave,
>
> When JAWS arbitrarily shuts up, I think you use the JAWS key+Windows
key+F4 solution, right? If it's failed to bring back JAWS for me, it's been
maybe only once or twice in many months. However, I need to use it at least
twice a day.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Dave Carlson
> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>
> Jim,
>
> Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
> Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.
>
> Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that
JAWS
> 16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
> my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
> there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>
>
> Dave:
>
> Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
> considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have
proven
> to be "far-sighted" after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3
most-recent
> version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
> previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.
>
> However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now,
are
> there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
> offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
> situation?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim H
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
> Cc: Dave Carlson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>
> Jim,
>
> As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
> fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
> occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
> program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
> things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
> all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
> anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to
justify
> that level of insanity.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <[email protected]>
> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>
>
> Don't mean to be "smart"; but, why would you want to use previous versions
> of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure
that
> there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)
>
> Jim H
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john.falter
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
> Cc: john.falter <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>
> What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.
>
>
> On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
>> The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground.  I don't
>> think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
>> though.  Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
>> position.
>>
>> Gary King
>> [email protected]
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
>> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>>
>>
>>> Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
>>> um, adage.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel
>>> McBride via Jfw
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
>>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
>>> Cc: Daniel McBride
>>> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>>>
>>> As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
>>> feeder.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian
>>> Spratt
>>> via Jfw
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>> Cc: Adrian Spratt
>>> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>>>
>>> Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
>>> to the
>>> end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
>>> waiting
>>> for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
>>> rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill
>>> White via
>>> Jfw
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>> Cc: Bill White
>>> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>>>
>>> What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
>>> Windows10 won't be free anymore.
>>> Bill White [email protected]
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "Brad Martin" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
>>> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
>>>> I just have a question (with a lot of background first):
>>>>
>>>> So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
>>>> doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
>>>> you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
>>>> now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
>>>> (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
>>>> indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.
>>>>
>>>> So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
>>>> know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
>>>> system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
>>>> see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
>>>> Windows
>>>> 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
>>>> cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it
>>>> ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to
>>>> know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
>>>> the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
>>>> computer to see if it will still function.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in
>>>> mall?
>>>> --
>>>> Brad Martin
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> My Facebook page
>>>> where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
>>>> facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
>>>> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>
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