Hello Jim and everyone,
It's possible to have it both ways. JAWS could be directed to store
a user's settings locally for those who prefer that setup or store them in
the cloud for users wanting easy access to them in the event of a computer
crash or if one buys a new computer. During installation if the cloud option
is selected JFW could be directed to retrieve your user settings from the
cloud so they can be reloaded with ease. This doesn't need to be an
either/or proposition.
Peter Donahue
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:50 PM
To: 'Bill White'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
Having JAWS totally in the cloud would scare the daylights out of me!
However, having JAWS settings in the cloud is no less of a security concern!
In my view, the ONLY thing that makes sense is to have a "fail-safe" way to
access your JAWS settings which is "resident" on your PC/lap top/tablet.
That way, people, who DO NOT want to use the cloud, will not be forced to do
so, and access to these settings would be available even if your PC/lap
top/tablet is not connected to the internet at the time.
I ask you... is the cloud REALLY NECESSARY? My response is clearly NO!
Jim H
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 7:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
Hi, Drew. Freedom Scientific is not going to run JAWS in the cloud. Only the
settings will be stored in the cloud. So you wouldn't be able to log on with
different devices and not have JAWS on your PC.
Bill White [email protected]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen via Jfw" <[email protected]>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
> The biggest advantage of having Jaws in the cloud in my opinion would
> be that it wouldn't be effecting the operation of your PC. It would
> also be much easier to use Jaws on multiple computers as you would
> just need to log into the cloud on whatever computer you are using. As
> far as security goes, for real hackers as long as a computer is
> connected to the internet periodically it doesn't matter weather the
> info is on the cloud or the hard drive they can still access it.
> Should be interesting what will happen with this, but I am all for the
> cloud.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim
> Hamilton via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 3:35 PM
> To: 'Peter Donahue'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: RE: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
>
> Good evening Peter:
>
> Over the last several years, we have seen a lot of news about some
> exceedingly security-conscious organizations, e.g. US Government,
> being hacked into. So, I do not believe that anything is "perfectly"
> safe; but,
> I
> do believe that I am better off when I keep personal information very
> close to home. In my view, no "cloud" is hacker-proof.
>
> This feature may be seen by many as a good idea; but, I strongly
> believe that users should be given the choice of where their JAWS
> settings are saved! This kind of stuff is just too important to put
> out into an ethernet cloud - public, or private! If I do not have an
> internet signal, what will happen? Will I just have to wait until my
> signal returns before I can use JAWS again. And, what happens if JAWS
> access is needed in an emergency?
>
> In short, there MUST be a "fail-safe" way to access JAWS settings when
> desired/required!
>
> To be honest, finding a way to keep the Merge Utility would seem to be
> a more "current" problem to resolve, rather than "where" JAWS settings
> are stored. It still confounds me that it would be left out in JAWS
> 17; but, I am only a "user".
>
> For years, I have considered JAWS to be about the best screen reader,
> despite its various problems. However, my perception of how Version
> 17 has been planned, and especially regarding how much it appears that
> this version was just not very-well thought out, is causing second
> thoughts on my part.
>
> Perhaps, I'm a dinosaur; but, I bet that other JAWS users have the
> same concern that I have expressed. Frankly, I want to KEEP my
> privacy as long as I can, and I also would prefer that control of my
> "necessary" aids be left in MY hands.
>
> It is my hope that FS will keep these concerns in mind when going forward.
> For instance, are there any plans to "re-introduce" the Merge Utility
> in an upcoming "update" to Version 17? And, despite your confidence
> in "cloud storage" of JAWS settings, might there be some thought to
> giving users that "fail-safe" of which I wrote?
>
> That's all for now. Thanks for listening.
>
> Jim H
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:51 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> There are public and private clouds. FS would obviously use a
> private cloud to address privacy concerns. We use a number of cloud
> applications and have not had issues with our privacy being
> compromized or our devices being hacked. Being able to have JAWS
> reload user settings and configurations from the cloud would be a
> welcome feature in a future version.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
>
> Jim Hamilton via Jfw wrote:
>> Sorry folks! My overriding concern is "privacy", of which there is
>> NONE
> in
>> the cloud! And, it's yet more information available "out there" for
> anyone,
>> with the skills, to find about me, or anyone else!
>>
>> OK; so, I'm a technical dinosaur; bbut, I'm not alone.
>>
>> Jim H
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Moore [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:22 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Having all settings, scripts, and all changes we make to JAWS stored
>> in
> the
>> cloud excites me a lot. If FS created a service for us to do this, We
> would
>> never lose our settings and our own scripts ever again. I agree.
>> Bring it on.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Donahue via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:09 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Peter Donahue
>> Subject: Re: Jaws and the Cloud, was Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> For some having JAWS store your user settings in the cloud is big.
>> I have made this suggestion to FS for some time and would like to see
>> it become a reality. Your authorization code would be stored with
>> your user settings allowing JAWS to retrieve information such as
>> saved settings whenever you upgrade to a new version or install and
>> authorize it on another device. Bring it on FS!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> Soronel Haetir via Jfw wrote:
>>> The only possible benefit I could see of allowing jaws to save
>>> settings to the cloud is if they loosen the licensing system so that
>>> it is easier for a single user to use many devices.
>>>
>>> On 11/6/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> For one, I will continue to ignore requests to store "anything" in
>>>> the cloud! There is already far too much information out there,
>>>> online, about myself, and don't want any additional windows into my
>>>> life. If FS has this in mind for saving/changing our JAWS
>>>> settings, I will strongly protest.
>>>> Of
>>>> course, before protesting, I will wait to see what happens.
>>>>
>>>> Jim H
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