Jamal i agree your idea is the ultimate solution, even liked your other idea
about screen reader standards with respect to graphics.

now if  microsoft was serious about helping the blind they could supply funding
to do this kind of research and  the results shared by all screen readers.

down the road i think more  graphics will be labelled thanks to new standards
for meta tags, though that is not a total answer  to the problem.


software companies deserve some of the blame, and that question of access 
where does the software developer responsibility  stop and the screen access
tool take over.


bill cameron




At 11:54 PM 1/21/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I wish HJ could develop a way to label graphics in a manner independent of
>the screen resolution.  Can't some mathematical calculations be made after
>interrogating the current screen resolution so as to derive a checksum for
>each graphic that will remain constant regardless of the resolution?
>
>Regards,
>Jamal
>
>On 1999-01-21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>   Ndavid  the fact that resolution changes make  the association go
>   Npoof, is my whole point.
>   Nso if you are constantly  sitting down to use a monitor set to a
>   Nresolution other than  standard v g a, then you not only have to
>   Nlabel new graphics, you must also relabel all the hundreds of
>   Ngraphics that hj has already labelled.
>   Nnow if hj wants to set jfw up so that when  you install it a person
>   Nsays  i want super v g a during the install and hj provides those
>   Nlabells at  that resolution that would also be find, guess what  i
>   Nshall bet you hj does not want to go to the trouble to do this, to
>   Nmuch effort, translation even they admit that labelling graphics is
>   Na hassle by the lack of provideing labelled graphics at differant
>   Nresolutions.
>   Nplus  Carols point is very valid, when you move to a higher
>   Nresolution where no graphics are labeled  trying
>   Nto deduce  those other  graphics is much harder.
>   Nbill cameron
>   NAt 08:08 PM 1/20/99 -0500, you wrote:
>   N>most graphics will tell you what they are and many are superfluous
>   N>because you can get them in other ways.  I'm not against a graphic
>   N>assistant.  It has been my experience though that with not much
>   N>work, the graphics can be labelled and if resolution is changed
>   N>for one reason or another, poof, there go your associations.
>   N>I have not found a graphic that is either not superfluous or that
>   N>I can not discern the function by either clicking on it and
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