i a getting two of each message can you tell me why this may be ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: jfw digest V3 #188 > > jfw digest Monday, 22 November 1999 Volume 03 : Number 188 > > If this issue has been truncated, you can now download another copy from > http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~nallan/jfw/digest-archive.html > As the web interface is in beta test, please let me know if there are > problems. > > In this issue > RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > unwanted characters > regarding henter-joyce tech wsupport > Re: New Windows Updates available > Re: lock ups with o e 5 and jfw 3.31 > Re: LATEST VERSION OF JAWS AND INTERNET EXPLORER > Re: laptop for sell > Re: sound card shared by JFW > RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > Re: Real Audio & no websounds! > Re: Silencing Keys > Re: unwanted characters > volume level suddenly goes to zero > New JAWS for Windows on the Job mailing list. > laptop computer inquiry > Re: New JAWS for Windows on the Job mailing list. > RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > Re: I do like 331 but there have been some examples of situations when virtual cursor must be not used... > Re: I do like 331 but there have been some examples of situations when virtual cursor must be not used... > RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > Re: regarding henter-joyce tech wsupport > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Shawn M Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:55:10 -0500 > Subject: RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > > Hi les, in answer to your question, I am not using eloquence, however, I am > using dec access32. I don't use eloquence unless I really have to. > However, I was told by a former computer instructor who pretty much knows > the ins and outs of jfw not to bother installing the 3.31 version. He said > that it really wasn't worth the hascle. The only synths that i have on my > computer at this time is eloquence, dec access32, and the ms text to speech > engine. Somebody help! > > Shawn At 08:59 AM 11/21/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Shawn, > > > >I cannot give you a definitive answer, but wonder if you are using > >Eloquence? I had numerous lock-ups, not as often as you are experiencing, > >and traced it to Eloquence on my system. I am using an external > >synthesizer, and the lock-ups are much less frequent. I imagine, however, > >that others use Eloquence, and I have not heard about the lock-up issues, > >but that doesn't mean that others are not having difficulty. Others will > >likely respond to your query. Good luck; it's frustrating, but hopefully > >you can isolate and eliminate the problem. > >Best Regards, > > > >Les > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > > __________________________________________ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:55:23 -0500 > Subject: unwanted characters > > Hello Listers, > In some recent E Mails that I composed, I have discovered some characters at > the beginning of the line that I did not put there. > I can oly read them when I read the current line. When I try to read > character by character, they are not present. These characters sound like c > h, t a and o w. > Also, when I am doing a final edit on E Mail messages, frequently words will > "jump" around and get a little rearanged. > > Any ideas? > > Danney > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "James Goodfellow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:37:56 -0000 > Subject: regarding henter-joyce tech wsupport > > Hi there, what do other people think of henter-Joyce support? > > I asked a question to there support team about 2 weeks ago and have not had > any answer. > I would at least expect a reply, after all I did pay my $700 for jaws for > windows. > In my opinion, henter-Joyce provides excellent products, [no dot about that] > but very low quality technical support. > I think that they could do a LOT better than now. > > Jak Goodfellow. > join the blind teenagers group by sending a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: David Poehlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:05:26 -0500 > Subject: Re: New Windows Updates available > > there is none yet. > - -- > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > Touching The Internet: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 301.949.7599 > ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/poehlman > http://poehlman.clark.net > Dynamic Solutions Inc. > Best of service > for your small business > network needs! > http://www.dnsolutions.com > > - ---sig off--- > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:07:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: lock ups with o e 5 and jfw 3.31 > > Hi Tom, > I have had these type experiences. Not so much in Outlook, but in Internet > Explorer. The rest of my family, who do not use the JFW are about to insist > that I get my own computer! They would also appreciate any ideas if anyone > out there has any, regarding thes lock ups. > Danney > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Flor Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:16:24 -0000 > Subject: Re: LATEST VERSION OF JAWS AND INTERNET EXPLORER > > The latest version of JFW (3.31.35) works very well with Internet Explorer > version 5. There are significant differences between IE5 (and earlier) for > JFW before 3.31.35. With IE5 and JFW3.31.35, we can use the Virtual PC > Cursor to make Internet documents read like ordinary word-processed > documents. (You will find IE5.0 on the latest JFW CD also.) On the other > hand, if you wish to remain using IE4.01 with JFW3.31.35, you can switch off > the virtual cursor in the Config manager permanently or by using <InsertZ> > locally. You would then proceed in the former manner as with IE4.01, going > screen by > screen with <ControlPageDown> instead of continuous scrolling as with > <InsertDownArrow>"say-all". > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: jfw mailinglist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 9:12 PM > Subject: LATEST VERSION OF JAWS AND INTERNET EXPLORER > > : Hello. > : I have just recieved my copy of the latest version of JFW and hope to > : install it when I get my new CD ROM drive. > : How well does it work with Internet Explorer? > : Could anyone tell me how much better or otherwise it works with Internet > : Explorer. > : I read from the information on the Henter-joyce web site that there have > : been changes made to the product. > : As I only recieved a CD ROM in a cardboard cover for the new upgrade, I > : don't know exactly how the changes will affect the working of Internet > : Explorer. > : Perhaps someone who already has the 3.31 version could give me some idea. > : - > : Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > : > : > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Stacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:32:37 -0800 > Subject: Re: laptop for sell > > Why do you wish to sell? > > Stacy. > > At 09:43 AM 11/18/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >I have a dell inspiron 700 for sale with > >back pack case, dvd, Pentium 2 266 and all the extras. > >I bought the system in December of 98 for $2,900. > >I am now asking $1700 > >The machine also comes with an extra battery. > >Call me at 828-252-1403 if you Want it. > > > >I can put the software back in its original state or sell it with the > >software I have on it. > >don > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Meared Reta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:38:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: sound card shared by JFW > > Hi, STAN & BOBBI Kay, > > Yes, I can hear the MidiFile on the Web Site you mentioned. > I think, your problem is with the volume control. > Check the Midi Volume up/down slider. > Go to StartMenu/Programs/accessories/multimedia/Volume Control, and, tab > until you hear "Midi Volume Up/Down Slider..." and adjust it according to > your satisfaction. > Up and down arrows increase and decrees 1 Percent at a time respectively. > page-up and Page-Down keys are useful to go up or down by grater numbers. > Tab once more and make sure that the Midi Volume isn't muted. > One more thing to check: > open Windows Media Player and make sure whether it is muted or not. > Ctrl+M is the toggle key for this command. > Opening a MidiFile during the experiment helps to know the effects easily. > > I hope this helps. > > Regards: > > > Meared Reta > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: STAN & BOBBI KAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 2:49 PM > Subject: sound card shared by JFW > > > > I use; > > Windows NT 4.0 Work Station, > > JFW 3.31, > > Deck Talk Access 32, > > Internet Explorer 5.0, > > Sound Blaster Live card; > > > > And am having problems with shared sounds: > > > > I hear Jaws all the time. > > > > I hear windows event sounds all the time. > > > > In I.E. 5.0 mutli media and sounds are checked. > > > > In Jaws allow waive files is checked. > > > > When I go to any interent site with sound, I hear nothing; > > > > This includes radio stations, music sample, and the like. > > > > Example: > > > > www.vegasjusticecenter.org > > > > Has Elvis background music. > > > > Everybody else hears that music. > > > > I hear only Jaws and Windows sounds. > > > > Pleas help. > > > > > > Respectfully With Best Regards, > > STAN PHILLIPS > > Attorney At law > > phone: (810) 777-5555 > > E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Postal: P.O. Box 141 > > Eastpointe, MI 48021 > > BLINK TRUST HOLDING COMPANY, INC. > > Prompt Competent Experts > > - > > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Les Kriegler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:46:25 -0500 > Subject: RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > > Hi Shawn, > > Well, I plan to install Dec Access 32. I would have to disagree with your > instructor. JFW 3.31.35 is worth using, especially if you are on the > internet and are using IE5. The V Cursor has some problems, but that would > not eliminate using the product. I would suggest uninstalling JFW, there is > an uninstall icon in the JFW group, run Scandisk and Defrag, and then try > re-installing JFW again. Good luck. > Best Regards, > > Les > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Michael Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:48:14 -0800 > Subject: Re: Real Audio & no websounds! > > Hi Joni. > If you are getting the test notes when you start Real Audio, your program > is probably properly set up to play ra files. > In Stan's case I thought he had never had his sounds working. Your mention > of occasional problems is something I myself have experienced and do not > really have a direct answer. I experience this problem on only one of my > systems. The next time it happens try the F 5 key in Internet Explorer and > see if it starts playing then. The F 5 key is the refresh website key which > will download a fresh copy of the midi file. This has solved the problem > for me sometimes. The music on my website is a midi file which will be > played by whatever your default midi player is. When you install Real Audio > it asks you if you want it to be your default player for all types of > windows media. If you answer yes it will play any real audio, wav, midi and > now even mp3 files that you encounter. If Real Audio is not set up as a > default player for all media files, then it will only play real audio files > and another program will pop up to play the others. If you do not have a > program suitable to play the file Windows will ask you what you want to do > with it. Sometimes with other programs after they pop up they have to be > activated with the play button, sometimes with an enter or space bar or > something. There are just so many variables it's hard to say. Sometime > things don't work even because a dialog box pops up with a registration, or > an upgrade notice that possible you are not aware of. > I hope this helps > Michael > > At 02:10 PM 11/21/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi Michael, > > > >I have occasionally had the same problem Stan described. I opened Real > >Player and heard the notes you mentioned. However, when I went to your web > >site I heard no sound and did not note a dialogue box. I wonder if I need > >to make any changes in the Real Player settings. Any advice? > > > >Joni > > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When we put ourselves in the other person's place, we're less likely to want > >to put him in his place. > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Michael Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 11:57 PM > >Subject: Re: Real Audio & no websounds! > > > > > > >Real Player will start in one of two ways. As a stand alone program which > > >you would start by finding it in your start menu or as an icon on your > > >desktop. When you start the program it plays a few notes to let you know it > > >is loaded. You should try this. The other way it starts is if you activate > > >a sound link on a web page or if a web page has a built in sound that plays > > >automatically. > > >By the way I went to www.vegasjusticecenter.org and there was no sound > > >there that I saw. There are difference sound formats and your system can be > > >set up to use different default players when it encounters a sound file. > > >Real Audio is one, win amp is another. When these are not installed it will > > >probably use Windows Media player. > > >Go to my web site www.speakandmagnify.com. When the site loads you should > > >immediately hear a midi file of Bill Bailey won't you please come home. > > >This way you can test to see if Explorer is set to play midi files > > >automatically. If you hear nothing, there might be a dialog box on the > > >screen saying Explorer needs to know how to handle this type of file. > > >Good luck > > >Michael Seelig > > > > > > > > > > > >Be sure to visit our website at www.speakandmagnify.com > > > > > >- > > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > Be sure to visit our website at www.speakandmagnify.com > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Stacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:46:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: Silencing Keys > > Yes it can be done. You have to do it from the configuration manager. I > have forgotten how to do this but I had to do it twice. > > Stacy. > > At 11:08 AM 11/18/1999 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi all, I have win. 95 along with > >JFW version 3.3 and I'am wondering if one can turn off keys on the keyboard > >such as space bar, control,Alt. and so on. It would be nice to not have them > >speak when pressed. > >Thanks much in advance > >Cheers, > >Glenn L.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Joni Colver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:57:46 -0600 > Subject: Re: unwanted characters > > Hi Danny, > > When I notice erratic behavior with JFW in an e-mail message I hit the > insert plus the escape key to refresh or rewrite the screen and things > generally work better after that. > > Joni > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > When we put ourselves in the other person's place, we're less likely to want > to put him in his place. > - -----Original Message----- > From: Yates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 2:59 PM > Subject: unwanted characters > > > >Hello Listers, > >In some recent E Mails that I composed, I have discovered some characters > at > >the beginning of the line that I did not put there. > >I can oly read them when I read the current line. When I try to read > >character by character, they are not present. These characters sound like > c > >h, t a and o w. > >Also, when I am doing a final edit on E Mail messages, frequently words > will > >"jump" around and get a little rearanged. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Danney > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Daine Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:52:54 +0100 > Subject: volume level suddenly goes to zero > > Hi folks, > > It seems something weird is happening here. > This is a Compaq 1585 DMT laptop running JFW 3.3026 and Access 32. > > Occasionally, the volume this system will drop to almost nothing but if you > go check the volume control window where all the various levels can be > adjusted, everything appears to be normal. > However, if you cycle the main volume and the wavetable volume down and up > and restart the system, all is normal again. > > This has happened 3 times in the last 2 weeks. The last time it occurred > just as some copied text was being pasted. > > Any ideas? > > Daine > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Darrell Shandrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:17:58 -0700 > Subject: New JAWS for Windows on the Job mailing list. > > [This followup was posted to comp.internet.net-happenings and a copy was sent to the cited author.] > > Introducing the jfw-employment Mailing List! > > Proactive Accessibility is proud to introduce a unique new blindness > related mailing list. The jfw-employment mailing list exists for the > purpose of sharing information related to the use and configuration of > the JAWS for Windows screen reader with customized workplace > applications. This task oriented workgroup will cover the following > questions: > 1. As a user of JFW on the job, what do you need? What could access > technology specialists and others charged with the task of scripting > customized applications do to make the process go more smoothely? How > could it be more effective and efficient? What would you like to see in > the way of documentation and instruction? > 2. As a power user of JFW, what do you need to become even more > functional? What improvements to existing JFW documentation would you > like to see? What would help you become more comfortable with the JFW > scripting language, the JFW utility managers like the frame manager, > window reclassification and other advanced JFW facilities? How could you > put your skills as a JFW power user to use to help improve the > effectiveness and efficiency of implementing JFW into the workplace for > those who do not happen to be power users? > 3. As an access technology specialist or as an individual otherwise > tasked with the implementation of JFW in a workplace situation, what do > you need to be more effective and efficient? What techniques have you > found to work well? What needs to be improved? What resources do you > use to make this daunting task more achievable? > > Since this mailing list is intended to be very task oriented, > subscriptions are approved by the moderator. If you possess one of the > following characteristics, your subscription will be approved: > 1. You are a JFW user. > 2. You meet at least one of the following additional requirements: > 2.1. You are using JFW on the job. > 2.2. You consider yourself to be a power user of JFW. > 2.3. You are an access technology specialist or you are otherwise tasked > with the challenge of implementing JFW in the workplace. > > Please join us! Simply send a message to the following address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Your subscription request will be forwarded to the list's moderator for > approval. Once approved, you will be a member of the list. This liberal > membership, but moderator approved, subscription policy will help to > insure that this list stays on task and does not generate a large amount > of irrelevant message traffic. > > Rules! > > The rules are simple. Here they are: > 1. Stay on task. Members who continually post irrelevant messages will > be deleted after three violations. This is a "three strikes, you're out" > policy. > 2. Do not use profanity or otherwise abuse other members. This is also a > "three strikes, you're out" policy. > > Armed with this information, please subscribe and we'll get some good > work done that will help all our people achieve great things! > Thank you for reading. > > > > - -- > Proactive Accessibility solutions! > Please browse to http://www.proactive-access.com. > Internet Access, Inc. / DBA GetNet hires qualified blind individuals! > Please browse to http://www.neta.com for high quality Internet services. > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Daine Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:27:52 +0100 > Subject: laptop computer inquiry > > Crystal, > > Funny enough, this is a very on topic question especially if you plan to use > Access32 or Eloquence as the synthesizer. If you are planning a hardware > synthesizer it is a bit less critical as that is one less item of > compatibility to worry about. > > JAWS is very sensitive to the video and sound hardware and their software > drivers in any system but because laptops are so tightly integrated, they > are even more prone to incompatibilities. And you can not just change the > sound card or the video card like in a desktop system. > I know because when I first bought JAWS it was for a laptop. I was told by > several HJ folks that all I needed to be sure of was that the sound sub > system was sound blaster compatible. Well I can tell you, that laptop has > only been trouble with jaws. > For reference it is a Compaq 1585 DMT but it is no longer available so you > wont be getting one of those. > > Anyway, I would take all the recommendations you can get and then purchase > from a place where you can exchange or return the laptop if it is not up to > snuff. > > Daine > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Crystal French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:44:47 -0600 > > Subject: laptop computer inquiry > > > > Hi, > > I am considering purchasing a laptop computer, but have never used one > > before. > > > > My biggest question, of course, is whether there are particular ones that > > will work best with Jaws? > > > > Is it better to buy through a commercial source or a company that sells > > adaptive technology? If you think the latter can you make any > > recommendations that you were pleased with when purchasing equipment? > > > > As this is a topic not likely to be of general interest, please contact me > > off list. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Crystal French > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: David Poehlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:33:30 -0500 > Subject: Re: New JAWS for Windows on the Job mailing list. > > kinda heavy handed eh? > - -- > Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > Touching The Internet: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 301.949.7599 > ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/poehlman > http://poehlman.clark.net > Dynamic Solutions Inc. > Best of service > for your small business > network needs! > http://www.dnsolutions.com > > - ---sig off--- > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:22:24 -0600 > Subject: RE: jfw3.31 locking up? > > I am using a dectalk pc1 card, and I experience those lockups. > At 08:59 AM 11/21/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Shawn, > > > >I cannot give you a definitive answer, but wonder if you are using > >Eloquence? I had numerous lock-ups, not as often as you are experiencing, > >and traced it to Eloquence on my system. I am using an external > >synthesizer, and the lock-ups are much less frequent. I imagine, however, > >that others use Eloquence, and I have not heard about the lock-up issues, > >but that doesn't mean that others are not having difficulty. Others will > >likely respond to your query. Good luck; it's frustrating, but hopefully > >you can isolate and eliminate the problem. > >Best Regards, > > > >Les > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > Walter > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:56:17 -0600 > Subject: RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > > I installed eudora 4.2, and I was not happy with it at all. I was having > all sorts of problems, and so I am back using 3.05, and now I am > considering outlook expresss, to see if it might work better with jfw > 3.31.35. > Walter > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: Walter Siren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:48:16 -0600 > Subject: Re: I do like 331 but there have been some examples of situations when virtual cursor must be not used... > > Who says that you can't download using virtual cursor. I have been > downlooading since I am using jfw3.31.35, and I never turn off my virtual > cursor. > At 09:08 PM 11/19/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Greetings, > >In a discussion on another list, some one was talking about using "Organize > >Favorites in Internet Explorer 5". And that person said, > > I have to > >turn off my virutal pc cursor in JFW 331 though to get to the list of > >favorites". Well, there has also been a message where a user of > >bankingsoftware would "alt tab" between applications having turned virtual > >cursor "off" only to find it turned back "on"" after "alt tabbing" back. > >And of course, one cannot download using virtual cursor? > >Do we need a list of these "exceptions to the rule"? > >Please, do not think that I do not appreciate the advantages of 331 on > >the web. The point is that I am trying to figure out "when not to use > >virtual cursor". > >have a great day. > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > Walter > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "d.d.torrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:32:24 -0600 > Subject: Re: I do like 331 but there have been some examples of situations when virtual cursor must be not used... > > I never turn my virtual cursor off when I download either. I've always had > speech. > > Donna > At 04:48 PM 11/21/1999 -0600, you wrote: > >Who says that you can't download using virtual cursor. I have been > >downlooading since I am using jfw3.31.35, and I never turn off my virtual > >cursor. > >At 09:08 PM 11/19/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >Greetings, > > >In a discussion on another list, some one was talking about using "Organize > > >Favorites in Internet Explorer 5". And that person said, > > > I have to > > >turn off my virutal pc cursor in JFW 331 though to get to the list of > > >favorites". Well, there has also been a message where a user of > > >bankingsoftware would "alt tab" between applications having turned virtual > > >cursor "off" only to find it turned back "on"" after "alt tabbing" back. > > >And of course, one cannot download using virtual cursor? > > >Do we need a list of these "exceptions to the rule"? > > >Please, do not think that I do not appreciate the advantages of 331 on > > >the web. The point is that I am trying to figure out "when not to use > > >virtual cursor". > > >have a great day. > > > > > >- > > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > > > >Walter > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: "d.d.torrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 17:34:19 -0600 > Subject: RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > > Hi Walter, > > My eudora 4.2 works just fine now. I made some changes in JAWS eudora > configuration manager which was application specific. I went and turned the > virtual Pc cursor off in advanced settings since I don't view by using > Html. I also went to the Text processing and set JFW to read lines instead > of sentences and it has been smooth sailing ever since. > > Donna > At 03:56 PM 11/21/1999 -0600, you wrote: > >I installed eudora 4.2, and I was not happy with it at all. I was having > >all sorts of problems, and so I am back using 3.05, and now I am > >considering outlook expresss, to see if it might work better with jfw > >3.31.35. > >Walter > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: STAN & BOBBI KAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:52:58 -0800 > Subject: RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > > Where is URL to sign up and or down load Eudora scripts specifically for > JFW 3.31? > > At 12:12 PM 11/21/99 -0600, you wrote: > >I moved from 4.1 to 4.2.2 a couple weeks ago. It mostly seems the same, > >and behaves the same under JFW as did 4.1. I was having occasional > >lockups of Eudora, and these seem to have gone away, which is good. > > > >I also went back to the scripts on the JFW mailing list for Eudora, rather > >then the ones which came with JFW3.31. They seem to work better. With > >the jfw-provided scripts, when I deleted a message with Control-D, it read > >a line from the deleted message when the new one came up. > > > >David Andrews > >At 10:54 AM 11/21/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >>Hello Linda and Listers. > >> > >> I, too, would be interested to know more about Eudora, version 4.22. > >>Linda, or anyone else who knows, what are the significant differences > >>between 4.22 and 4.1 that I currently use, especially withr espect to JFW > >>support. > >> > >>Regards.At 08:15 PM 11/20/99 -0500, Linda Parent wrote: > >> >Hi, > >> > > >> >There is eudora pro 4.2.2 and it works good with the new jaws. > >> > > >> >Linda Parent > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider > >> >Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 8:44 PM > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Subject: New version of Eudora Pro? > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi everyone. I hear that there is a new version of Eudora Pro out and I am > >> >wondering how it works with JFW before I try it on the new computer I will > >> >be receiving soon from Dell. Thanks in advance for any comments. > >> > > >> >Lynn K. Schneider > >> > > >> > > >> >- > >> >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > >> > > >> >- > >> >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > >> > >>Jerry > >> > >>- > >>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > Respectfully With Best Regards, > STAN PHILLIPS > Attorney At law > phone: (810) 777-5555 > E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Postal: P.O. Box 141 > Eastpointe, MI 48021 > BLINK TRUST HOLDING COMPANY, INC. > Prompt Competent Experts > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: STAN & BOBBI KAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:55:02 -0800 > Subject: RE: New version of Eudora Pro? > > Yes Eudora 4.2 was doign that to me initiall amoung other problems. > > Go into tools, then options. > > Make sure you check sendign and receivng both for "plain text only." > > That styled text makes Jaws see a blank message area. > > Got that tip from HJ Tech Support. > > It did work for me. > > At 11:04 AM 11/21/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > >I'm having a terrible problem with Eudora 2.2 and JAWS. I've had to install > >it twice because of some of the things it is doing, and so now I'm using > >4.1 again. I've never had some of the things go wrong that has been lately > >such as menus opening and boxes either overmaximizing and JFW 3.31 not > >being able to read the messages or not reading the messages at all. > > > >does anyone know why this would be doing this? > > > >Donna > >At 10:54 AM 11/21/1999 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hello Linda and Listers. > > > > > > I, too, would be interested to know more about Eudora, version 4.22. > > >Linda, or anyone else who knows, what are the significant differences > > >between 4.22 and 4.1 that I currently use, especially withr espect to JFW > > >support. > > > > > >Regards.At 08:15 PM 11/20/99 -0500, Linda Parent wrote: > > >>Hi, > > >> > > >>There is eudora pro 4.2.2 and it works good with the new jaws. > > >> > > >>Linda Parent > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider > > >>Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 8:44 PM > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Subject: New version of Eudora Pro? > > >> > > >> > > >>Hi everyone. I hear that there is a new version of Eudora Pro out and I am > > >>wondering how it works with JFW before I try it on the new computer I will > > >>be receiving soon from Dell. Thanks in advance for any comments. > > >> > > >>Lynn K. Schneider > > >> > > >> > > >>- > > >>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > >> > > >>- > > >>Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > >Jerry > > > > > >- > > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > Respectfully With Best Regards, > STAN PHILLIPS > Attorney At law > phone: (810) 777-5555 > E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Postal: P.O. Box 141 > Eastpointe, MI 48021 > BLINK TRUST HOLDING COMPANY, INC. > Prompt Competent Experts > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > From: STAN & BOBBI KAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:11:57 -0800 > Subject: Re: regarding henter-joyce tech wsupport > > OK JACK & LISTERS: > > If you have been waiting two weeks, that is to long and not acceptable. > > You should re submit your issue. > > Also I have found calling on the phone will get more immediate results. > > Lastly and when all else failes, send a message to sales at HJ, and make a > formal complaint. > > Ther ealso is Mr. Henter, who might be interested in knowing the ball got > droppped if you went through all of the foreogina nd still got no reply. > > I would not write to him though unless you had been through everythign else > first. > > > At 08:37 PM 11/21/99 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi there, what do other people think of henter-Joyce support? > > > >I asked a question to there support team about 2 weeks ago and have not had > >any answer. > >I would at least expect a reply, after all I did pay my $700 for jaws for > >windows. > >In my opinion, henter-Joyce provides excellent products, [no dot about that] > >but very low quality technical support. > >I think that they could do a LOT better than now. > > > >Jak Goodfellow. > >join the blind teenagers group by sending a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >- > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > Respectfully With Best Regards, > STAN PHILLIPS > Attorney At law > phone: (810) 777-5555 > E-Mail: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Postal: P.O. Box 141 > Eastpointe, MI 48021 > BLINK TRUST HOLDING COMPANY, INC. > Prompt Competent Experts > - - > Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net > > ------------------------------ > > End of jfw digest V3 #188 > ************************* > > - Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
