actually I had heard that it can be reset up to 10 times. I know that it is
more than one, since I had to get mine reset more than 10. personally i
don't think you should have to pay $25 for a new disk, but maybe $5 so that
they can cover the shipping cost. floppys don't cost $20
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 16:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I shouldn't have to crack JFW!
I don't suppose what I have to say about this matters a damn but lets never
forget that if people were honest the entire copy protection issue would not
exist.
I am amazed by the staff HJ supports. They must have to ship four or five
copies each and every day just to meet payrole. There are cheaper products
out there which are not copy protected and I will bet many duplicates too.
If those products were also comparible or superior of course we, who have
payed full price for JFW would not be hearing about their satisfied non-copy
protected customers on this list now would we!
I do have complaints of course, many but when the dust settles they usually
revolve around this damned unstable operating system and programmers who
refust to comply with standard API functions and classes. In the end, the
copy protection scheme only really fails because of that.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home of the Polar Bear Express!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Csercsics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: I shouldn't have to crack JFW!
> I agree with u completely!! There's copyright protection but when somebody
> cant use an $800 because they have to worry about losing some stupid
> authorization it getsx to be a bit much. If hj is so worried about people
> cracking programs then they shouldnt put full versions online. I
personally
> have never used a computer with windows without having to format at least
> every 3-6 months. I'll see how this new system I just bought works, so far
> it's fairly stable but I know at some point I'm gonna lose another key. I
> dont know if HJ tells people this but did you know that when they give
you
> an authorization string it's only good for one use per disk. So you can
only
> restore lost authorizations once and then they want more money for another
> disk.
> Dave Csercsics,
> Simba or Zemballa on irc,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Drennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 6:31 PM
> Subject: I shouldn't have to crack JFW!
>
>
> > This is not one disgruntled user speaking. I work at a training and
rehab
> > facility and was in charge of choosing which screen reader to purchase.
I
> > was using WE and had been for years, but was seriously considering a
> switch
> > to JFW for our preferred speech program because it was more stable. This
> > would have meant a learning curve which would have been worth it, but
for
> > the fact that the operating system that WE and JFW works under (Windows)
> is
> > so unstable that it makes DOS 4.01 look good!
> >
> > I can't tell you how many times Windows has cost me data and files,
> > necessitating complete re-installations, and has resulted in the loss of
> > DecAccess authorization keys. This has cost me bucks, time, irreplacable
> > records and any patience with a software developer who does not realize
> that
> > the protection he wants on his property makes his property worthless to
me
> > when the operating system that runs it is a piece of trash. I am the one
> who
> > must not use my system while copy protection makes sure that I'm not a
> > pirate or tech support tries to figure out if my fifth Win98
installation
> in
> > less than a year is REALLY legit!
> >
> > I don't pay $800 to deal with an added headache such as copy protection.
> It
> > is my policy to NEVER buy copy protected software knowingly, and to
return
> > it if I find it later. Copy protection does not recognize viruses,
system
> > crashes, and illegal operations, and I have had my share of all of
these.
> >
> > Now lest anyone think that this is a total flame, let me say right now
> that
> > if JFW were not copy protected, I would probably be using it now. I
think
> > that it is a fine product for the reasons I have stated above. But it
> also
> > makes demands of me, the customer, that I bear the burden of problems
> caused
> > by it's operation. When you add copy protection to the high cost of it's
> > upgrades, it's demands cause it to stay on the shelf.
> >
> > Now consider what would be different without the key. I have arranged
the
> > purchase of at least three copies of the competition's screen reader.
This
> > too is a good product with it's share of problems, but with lower
upgrade
> > cost and NO KEYS to compound the pain caused by Bill Gates' desire to
stay
> > the 2nd richest man in the world! Along with this have been collateral
> sales
> > of screen enlargement software and voice recognition systems. Braille
> > software and a Braille printer will be bought within a year by my
> employer,
> > and we are training people on software that they will buy as well. Now
> > granted, I am only one buyer of multiple software packages, but this is
> what
> > the key costs HJ.
> >
> > This may seem a little hard, but this is the way it is. If it changes, I
> can
> > reconsider, but I cannot and will not do so after the purchase. Give me
a
> > reason to change my mind.
> >
> > Gary Drennan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rodney Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 12:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: I will crack jfw!
> >
> >
> > > Are we still going on with this thread? My God folks, it's beating a
> dead
> > > horse. We're talking about one disgruntled user of JFW. I nor most
> > people
> > > I've talked with has ever lost a key from defragmenting the hard
drive,
> so
> > > give it a rest for crying out loud!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > TOUCHSTONE COMPUTER CONSULTING
> > > Rodney Kelly, Adaptive Technology Specialist
> > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Csercsics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 5:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: I will crack jfw!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah this authorization key thing is really a pain in the butt and a
> > waste
> > > > of time and all that but we cant do anything about it except
boycott
> > hj's
> > > > products or live with the problems. Complaining obviously doesnt
work,
> > but
> > > > if HJ starts losing business the key won't be around for long.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Csercsics,
> > > > Simba or Zemballa on irc,
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Karl Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 7:59 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: I will crack jfw!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The fact is that I have defragged disks without removing the JFW
> > > > > authorization key without trouble several times. I don't
> particularly
> > > > like
> > > > > the key but HJ does have the right to do what they want with their
> own
> > > > > product. They are not the only ones who use it several products
use
> > it
> > > > but
> > > > > hide it in the install process. I also think that the childish
> nature
> > > of
> > > > > the message below is completely unproductive.
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:07 AM 12/9/1999 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >It's hj who should be made to stand in the corner when it comes
to
> > > > > >authorisation issues, not us "pirates"
> > > > > >I forgot to move my key from c: to a: in the rush to defragment
my
> > hard
> > > > > >disk.
> > > > > >I hate hj's stupid everlock authorisation problems. Why should
we
> > have
> > > > to
> > > > > >run a bug riddled program to move the key from c: to the floppy
> just
> > to
> > > > > >defragment the drive and tidy things up?
> > > > > >Those airheads didn't even put this information about defrag in
the
> > > help
> > > > > >file!
> > > > > >I hope that someone manages to crack the authorisation code and
> gives
> > > out
> > > > > >free fully working copies of jfw and that they lose money,
because
> > > quite
> > > > > >frankly, I think hj deserves what's coming to them!
> > > > > >This is the end of my dealings with hj!
> > > > > >goodbye!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-
> > > > > >Visit the jfw ml web page: http://jfw.cjb.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > ___________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > CSA Adaptive Products and Services
> > > > > Karl Smith
> > > > > 4304 South El Camino St.
> > > > > Taylorsville, Utah 84119
> > > > >
> > > > > Phone: 801-967-5655
> > > > > Fax: 801-969-4357
> > > > > Toll Free: 800-335-4995
> > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > - Never confuse an open mind with an empty head.
> > > > >
> > > > > -
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
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> >
> >
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