Ideally why can't people leave religion in their home, hte the private domain. Why convert? I have no interest in converting anybody. But I would like to ensure my tolerance is not taken advantage of. I think tribals will be happy with development and with the ability to maintain their unique traditions and culture. Unfortunately there are elements which combine religion to development which is were the problem arises. The khandamal riots in Orissa show how dangerous and divisive it is.
Let us work to take out religion from the public sphere. To each his own. Venkat On 5/5/08, WILLIAM KISKU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I entirely agree with the moderator that the forum has > to respect the "freedom of speech". In this day and > age, net is a very powerful tool no doubt, but the > readers have their own IQ level to take it or leave > it. I am sure as long as there is no fowl vocabulary, > physical threat or violence promoted, a healthy > exchange of disagreement on whatever topic should be > fine. > > Whether one likes it or not, Muslim religion is now > THE fastest growing religion IN THE WORLD..... to my > knowledge without any evidence of coercion. These > people do not have adivasis in Jharkhand as targets. > This is despite the 9/11 event and media linking this > carnage to this religion. ( Unless some one out there > can give me some reliable data.) > > Christianity has spread around the globe because of > the life style they ( the believers) project rather > than the BIBLICAL truth itself. At the same time > Christianity has not achieved the global religion > status because of the lifestyle some of the Christians > project! > > So wake up people, if you want to convert people to > your religion from any other religion, it is not your, > Vedas or Quarans or Bible for that matter which will > convert people . It is your lifestyle you project at > your personal level. > > Mother Theresa in Kolkata was not popular because she > was preaching Christianity, but the life she lived, > helping the destitute and downtrodden. > > One must learn to walk the talk, not just talk ( or > write in the forum, and criticise rest of the world > with a jaundiced view.) > > William Kisku > > --- Jharkhand Moderator > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jharkhand.moderator%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Forum Members, > > > > Thank you very much for your call on moderation on > > particular issues. Though, we would like to ask to > > entire forum, why any issue or any religious topic > > should be moderated? Aren't they part of – 'what is > > happening at ground'? In fact, we are here to know > > perceptions of everyone on 'what is happening at > > ground' so, that forum can come up with any positive > > outcome as well as educate the people. > > > > Jharkhand Forum is not a medium to empower any > > anti-social elements. And it is never been hijacked > > by any particular group or individual if it would > > then your criticism about it or others would not > > have been appearing on forum. > > > > Jharkhand Forum posting rules are same for all > > either you are a moderator or member or governor. If > > reality is not presented here in decent language or > > manner then it is more likely to create uncomforts > > for all members but, suppressing voice of any one is > > the biggest crime. > > > > We want your voices / thoughts / ideas / opinions > > / experiences / suggestions to be heard here without > > any intermediate moderation. And, you can support > > this mission by broadcasting your issues / matters > > in true manner & decent language that do not hurt > > any individual (except guilty one). In all cases, > > please avoid personal attack on any forum member. > > > > We think – > > > > If you are right from your views / arguments / > > reports than another member is not 100 percent wrong > > from his/her sides too (expressions standard and > > knowledge can be vary as per his > > age/education/experiences level). > > > > If two rival groups working for same mission and > > one face critics then yes, another one should have > > critics too no matter either its Tata or Jindal. > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Note, we will not pass your message if it would > > not be directly of indirectly related to Jharkhand > > Region (Bengal, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand and > > Orissa) or related issues. > > > > If you like advertise your commercial or profit > > making services or itself than please use Jharkhand > > Express – > > www.Jharkhand-Express.blogspot.com<http://www.jharkhand-express.blogspot.com/>. > > > > > NOTE: If you find your messages are not appearing > > at Jharkhand Forum, then please go through with > > Jharkhand Forum posting norms, available on > > http://www.jharkhand.org.in/posting_norms.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overwhelmed by the number of individual email > > messages from Jharkhand Forum? > > > > If Jharkhand Forum is generating a lot of messages, > > you may want to get a summary of the daily messages > > in a single email. The Daily Digest is a great way > > to keep up with what's happening in Jharkhand Forum, > > particularly if you don't need to respond > > immediately to the messages. Switch to daily digest > > now by sending a blank mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<Jharkhand-digest%40yahoogroups.co.in> > > > > Please note, Daily Digest mail delivery supports > > text format mail only. So, no graphics or colorful > > mails with daily digest option. > > > > > > > > > > > > ******* (Asterisks) represents the particular word > > or line has removed by Moderator. > > > > > > HOW TO PROMOTE JHARKHAND? > > > > Jharkhand Region is the most ignored region in > > India either in media or in any other fields as for > > example – Jharkhand born recently risen cricket icon > > is more widely known than 'Jharkhand' – the word > > that is a name of the Indian State came at India's > > Map 7 years ago). > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnab Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<arnabsen.anthropology%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > This group is in need of serious > > moderation. Let's keep the religious right-wing > > diatribe out of here. Can the moderators please > > intervene?? > > Arnab > > > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Dr.Dhanakar Thakur > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <dhanakar_amp%40yahoo.co.in>> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nachiketa, > > > > I live in Jharkhand and I feel if anybody talks > > for conversion in Jharklhand he/she is not a > > "mentally retarded idiot" whether one talks for or > > against that. > > > > True, Jharkhand has more serious problems to > > attend to but if one talks on it he/she should be > > ready to listen to the other view point as well. > > > > Hindus never say they only have the last "word" and > > the way to "god" and that others say is the root of > > maladies and conversion and its opposition. > > > > > > Equating Afganistan with Gujarat or Kashmir is > > ridiculous. > > > > if there would not have been Christian > > missionaries the Hindu types would not have > > evolved. > > > > Equating both have destring cultures of > > adivasies in India is wrong. > > > > Hanumans Himself was an Adivasi born at Anjan > > village near Toto Gumla, > > > > There is nothing as cultural imperialism and > > erasing of tribal identity and culture. > > > > Why anybody is more serious for evangelical talks > > than talking on the food price rise and long term > > global warming and starvation and destitution? > > > > - If RSS is so active in tribal and backward > > areas- to counteract Missionaries with service and > > educational facilites what harm in that? > > > > Let people choose their way. > > > > Aunited dalit-tribal- poor front if happen would > > be a Hindu front abd where is the Brahminical > > dominance in the country?? It had never been- > > brahmins hardly ruled any oart of the country. > > > > . Divide and rule- has partitioned India , > > > > Whether RSS people in power in Jharkhand or anywhere > > or not an anti-conversion law must be strengthened.. > > > > Regards > > > > Dhanakar > > > > > > Dr. Dhanakar Thakur > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/5/08, Nachiketa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<epgorissa%40gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > From: Nachiketa <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <epgorissa%40gmail.com>> > > Subject: Re: RE: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Conversion > > law violation is a criminal offence > > To: [email protected] <Jharkhand%40yahoogroups.co.in> > > > > Date: Saturday, 3 May, 2008, 6:18 AM > > > === message truncated === > > William Kisku > > >
