The very statement " 21 year old Christian College student was killed by
fanatic Hindu-s" smacks of the ulterior motives of projecting this news in this
manner.
Is it to get more sympathy from evangelical groups outside the Country and
get more funds?
It is well known that unemployed Kerala Christians are roped in by these
Evangelical groups in conversion activities, funding them heavily and also
indulge in anti-Hindu activities and publicity.
What was the motive to kill the 21 year old? Why don't you give details of
the same? Was it any criminal connections that led to his killing?
I am reminded of the huge publicity given to the abduction and rape of two
nurses in MadhyaPradesh(Jharkand?) by Hindu activists which on Police
investigations were found to be an incident that happened in a Church among
Christians and pastors incolved, which they wanted to pass on as "Hindu
involvement".
Most of these so called orphanages are misionary activities to "harvest"
Hindu children and convert them to Christianity. Many of them are also involved
in "child traffiking" and "adoption Centres" selling of these children on
adotion to childless couples from the West!!
"Dr.Dhanakar Thakur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jharkhand Forum | Jharkhand.org.in/forum
I am surprised that mention of orphange is done in debate on conversion.
You may not be aware that on my initiative there is an orphanse NIVEDITA
ASHRAM is running at Ranchi(22 orphans by now) run by the NMO,Ranchi but it was
not started by anybody's muder but because one person Mahesh Vadhvani used to
come to me collecting physicians' samples and he had a desire for having
orphanage9as he was childless probably) and then we came to start that...
Dr. Dhanakar Thakur
--- On Wed, 21/5/08, Roopa Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Roopa Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] Conversion means lust of power / money / fame
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 11:17 AM
In the summer of 1999, a twenty one year old college student named Michael
Job was killed in India by fanatical Hindus. His father was well known
evangelist and Christian worker, Dr. P.P. Job. The fanatics did not like Dr.
Job or his Christian message, so they killed his son.
Dr. Job was devastated ­ but not broken. He responded to the hatred by
starting an orphanage unlike any other in India.
This orphanage is only for girls ­ strange enough in a culture that
doesn't value girls.
And even more unusual ­ this orphanage is only for girls of persecuted
and martyred Christians.
Today the Michael Job Center for Orphan Girls is a dynamic refuge for
hundreds of girls of persecuted families from all over the Indian
sub-continent.
Each child that comes to The Michael Job Center is a vision of hope for the
future ­ a hope that is born out of sorrow and strengthened with love.
But more children are waiting! Sponsor an orphan girl for just $25.00 a month
and you will prepare the way for more girls of persecuted Christians to be
rescued from a life of poverty and hopelessness.
vikash singh <vikash_singh@ yahoo.com> wrote: Isaac,
It is okay if you don't worship anything, As Proud
Hindu, It is okay for my son if doesn't worship
anything, because our GOD never said Worship me.
I have not change tracks, it doesn't matter if Vikash
worships Creator or Creation as Hindu.
Even after reading so much about Hinduism, You don't
have iota understanding of Hinduism. My dear friend
Isaac, In hinduism, Brahma is Creator, It is okay if
you want to Worship him.
So In hinduism you have option whom you want to
worship, Creator (Brahma) or Creation ( Land, Fire,
water , Human, Animal)... It is democracy in Hinduism
:)
> How come the modern, Vikash's marvel at The Mummy
> or the Taj Mahal, made by ancestors.. In the past
> healing was done by just moving energy.How many
> medical doctors can do that, with their ultra
> sophisticated gadgets?
Regarding ancestors: What about 1000 metre buildings.
We have created more in last 200 years than combined
all history. Soon Man will create Clone, Soon Man will
reach Mars.
> If you become a very successful software engineer-
> which is quite unlikely- but lets assume for your
> sake, u do become very successful. Will you not
> lovingly attempt to convert your friends, your
> children,your dog, your friends children and family
> members and anyone seeking carrer advise into IT.
I am a good human being, and that is enough for me to
be successfull person, I am just doing my duty.
I would tell pros/crons of IT if some one asks me
about IT, which means that Christianity too has lots
of Flaws.
Issac, You may be christain, Are u happy person? You
are trapped inside religon, you need enlightment my
friend.
Have you ever thought, why there is 1 GOD, why not
multiple.
Have you ever thought, what only Jesus, why not Jesus,
and multiple others who were sent by GOD.
For you, Everything written in Bible is truth.
It is because your brain has been indoctrine to belief
about Bible, and your limit to think is only Bible.
Enlighten yourself as what Lord Buddha did.
If you are happy person, be a good human being, which
is just do your duty which is conversion.
To understand the concept of POWER, why you need it,
you have to ask everyone around you, why they are
working day and night. Isn't it sufficient.
To understand the concept of POWER, you have to ask
the Mullah who gives sermon on Friday nights.
Isaac, you are still to understand the science/ecomics
of being a Human being.
with best regards,
Vikash S.
.
--- isaac verghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
> Vikash u mentioned in yr earlier email about the
> greatness of worshipping air,water,tree, duck and
> gas.
It was in that context that u were reminded who
> we should worship- the creator not the creation. Now
> you change direction and say what difference does it
> make- creator or creation. Please donot make
> yourself a laughing stock, buddy. Have some respect
> for yourself.Ignorance is bliss but this is
> ridiculously blissfull.
>
> How come the modern, Vikash's marvel at The Mummy
> or the Taj Mahal, made by ancestors. In the past
> healing was done by just moving energy.How many
> medical doctors can do that, with their ultra
> sophisticated gadgets?
>
Hahahaha: what about 1000 metres building?
> If you become a very successful software engineer-
> which is quite unlikely- but lets assume for your
> sake, u do become very successful. Will you not
> lovingly attempt to convert your friends, your
> children,your dog, your friends children and family
> members and anyone seeking carrer advise into IT. U
> wud, right. why?Because u are so convinced about it.
> It's the same with religion.They convert lovingly
> those who are willing.Why? because they are
> convinced like u, that this is the best thing for
> everyone.I donot think any force is used by
> christians to convert in these modern times.If
> anyone uses pressure of any kind on people thats
> wrong.
>
> U r not even good at putting words in my mouth- U
> said,"everyone needs Power". Have you met everyone
> to know that. Since you said it, probably thats what
> u r seeking- money,power and lust. Don't assume that
> everyone is like you Vikash.How does having more
> people give you power? What do you need this power
> for? To light up the villages or to blow them.
>
>
> Cheers
> Isaac
>
>
> vikash singh <vikash_singh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> Whom do u worship, "Creator or Creation"?
>
> Anyway what is difference between worshiping
> "Creator
> or Creation"?
>
> Do you think our forefathers (People who wrote
> Bible,
> Gita or Kora ) were more intelligent than us.
>
> As matter of fact, Human brain has not changed in
> last
> 50,000 years. And I disagree that anyone who was our
> fore-father was GOD.
>
> And i also disagree that fact, GOD who is so all
> powerfull to create the universe, will need a MAN to
> become his messenger.
>
> MAN is tiny particle in this nature and I GUESS, it
> existence is ever know to GOD.
>
> Then the whole question is? Why conversion?
>
> Reasons:
> Every one needs POWER, if there are more christians,
> ISAAC has more power. If there is millions of people
> at Friday gathering, Mullah feels powerfull...
>
> So it is the lust of power / money / fame, that is
> required. it was same hunger of power that made Shia
> &
> Sunni.
>
> with best regards
> Vikash S.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> P V Isaac,
> Home:9874 1819 Mob 0415 144 981.
>
> " What you resist, will persist"
>
>
