Dear All,
I think we should be a bit careful with our language here. Comparing the 
delivery a baby with 'hard stool' is a huge insult to women in labour. Women 
also do not - traditionally - go back to working in the fields immedaitely 
after delivery.
Let's not over romaticise to this extent please!
Lindsay Barnes


On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 S kumar wrote :
>Dr.Sharma,
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>   Under normal circumstances, when women stick on to the ancestral traditions 
> and advice given by elders, normal deliveries were the norms. We see how the 
> tribals or working women even at the fag end of their pregnancy, continue to 
> work and leave the work to deliver the child asisted by another older woman 
> or a midwife and return to work.
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>   Delivery is such a smooth process provided one does not interfere with the 
> growth of the child by excessive vitamins, minerals like Calcium or other 
> medicines to expedite delivery..etc. The delivery is nothing more than pasing 
> a hard stool and we should leave it to nature for the pains to appear, 
> increase the frequency and force until the child is delivered.
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>   One of the main causes for increased caesarean has been indiscriminate use 
> of Calcium tablets, that hardens the bones of the foetus esp. the skull 
> making the passage more difficult.
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>   Follow nature, normal food and good exercise with normal home activity. The 
> delivery would also be normal.
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>"Dr.V.N. Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>           The fact that has been surprising me for last 40 years -why Medical 
> Science suddenly turned to caesarean births in last 20-25 years seem to have 
> been answered. It is not just this. Every portion of medical practice is 
> doubtful today. Anyway for the present I would like the present link to be 
> opened and read. Thanx
>http://downtoearth.org.in/full6.asp?foldername=20080531&filename=news&sec_id=15&sid=32
>--             Birth in the Squatting Position • by Polymorph Films 1979 • (10 
>mins, Brazil) • The business of being born by Abby Epstein (83 mins, USA) • 
>Birthday by Naoli Vinaver (10 mins, Mexico) • Born at Home by Sameera Jain • 
>(60 mins, India)
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>Commercial cinema, at least the variety common in this country, tends to show 
>childbirth in a kind of half-light: the mother screaming and blood flowing 
>profusely. If the end is happy, a doctor enters with a scalpel and saves the 
>woman. The baby is taken by its feet and smacked on its back to make it cry 
>and everyone is happy.
>         If the way you see childbirth is influenced by such imagery, four 
> films screened on April 29 and 30 by the Delhi Birth Network would have been 
> perfect to correct your perception. These films were about natural births and 
> home births. They showed that doctors are in most cases not required for 
> childbirth.
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>Birth in the Squatting Position from Brazil is a good introduction to the 
>concept of natural birth. The woman and the child work out the process of 
>delivery between them right in front of your eyes. The baby comes out in the 
>mother’s hands or just lands softly on a bed kept ready for its arrival. 
>Doctors, if present, stand there and just watch the process. The documentary 
>follows five births and as the babies pop out effortlessly, one after the 
>other, you get comfortable with natural births. The Business of Being Born 
>shakes you out of this comfort. It shows that natural births rarely happen if 
>a doctor is involved. Hospital births are more likely to end up in a caesarean 
>for the simple epidural injection starts a cascade effect ensuring that the 
>only way to save the baby is to extricate it by making an incision in the 
>mother’s abdomen.
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>Natural births are said to strengthen the bond between mother and child. The 
>third documentary, Birthday , emphasizes this. It shows a family in Mexico 
>taking part in the process of getting the new baby into the world in a water 
>bath.
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>The fourth film, Born at Home, is about India where home births and natural 
>birth are only options for the majority. It shows traditional dai s (midwives) 
>in rural Rajasthan and Bihar, and in Delhi slums helping in delivery.
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>Born at home brings out interesting tid bits of traditional knowledge, which 
>are being lost because they do not fit in with modern practices. One such 
>pertains to when the umbilical cord should be cut. Traditional wisdom lets the 
>connection remain till the child is acclimatized to the new environment. It is 
>only when the cord stops pulsating, that it is cut. This also ensures that the 
>placenta comes out of the body. Modern doctors cut the cord immediately after 
>the child is born and placentas are known to remain in and lead to further 
>problems.
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>Lessons from tradition
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>Besides their visual appeal, there is a lesson in these films: there is a role 
>for doctors in childbirth, but not one in which they stage-manage the show. 
>The problem is when doctors are involved, cases of natural births are rare, 
>more so in private hospitals that use surgery. For surgeons trained in 
>obstetrics and gynaecology, money is the incentive. They do not have the 
>patience to let nature take its time.
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>usa, where most births take place in institutions, has a higher rate of death 
>of both mother and the infant than Europe where natural births are common.
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>Studies show that the number of normal births in India in government hospitals 
>is relatively higher. However, achieving 100 per cent deliveries in public 
>hospitals suffers given the sorry state of public health system in the 
>country. In urban India, even when natural birth is talked about, it is with 
>an emphasis on the learning from the West. As a result, we lose out on 
>indigenous practices.
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>For example, in Rajasthan, to ensure that surroundings are sterilized, a dai 
>uses clean sun-baked sand and warms it. This sand is layered on the bed and 
>covered with a cotton cloth. The heat eases child birth. But now this practice 
>has given way to use of plastic sheets that are rarely cleaned and so increase 
>chances of infection.
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>Consider another example. This is to take care of the mother after she 
>delivers. Medicinal herbs are burnt and covered by a huge basket. The mother 
>squats on the basket; the smoke has antiseptic properties.
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>The way forward would be to train more mid-wives because 99 per cent of 
>childbirths need just a disinfected blade and a thread. They are also cheaper. 
>Doctors should of course be available for emergencies.
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