1. By Stone Age Culture, I mean primitive culture the tribals follow throughout 
India, not only in Jharkand. If you want to know more about culture refer to 
the thesaurus or other relevant sources.
 
2. Entrepreneurs do not have any fancy to invest in Jharkand and disturb the 
tribals. It is the feasibility of a project based on minerals available there 
that Industries are attracted there. You learn more about Project feasibility 
studies and viability projections and you would understand the importance of 
location of a project. 
 
3. Investments are coming to Jharkand as Jharkand is a part of India and you 
have elected the reprentatives sitting at decision making bodies at Delhi. If 
you have elected people like Shibhu Soren, whatever you s-backs might be 
applicable to them.
 
4. Try to understand the realities. No amount of noise from NGO-s or 
Evangelists is going to change the industries from coming to the sources of raw 
materials as the feasibility and Govt. policies decide on these matters, not 
the NGO-s or tribal lip-sympathisers.
 
 


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Rajeev Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Rajeev Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] whose development???????
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 6:07 PM







 




 
 
 
  



Dear Mr Kumar
Please under stand culture first, how you telling any culture stone age, it 
might be your culture will worst than every one in tribals views, first read 
about culture and comment about culture. Poorly difining culture will seeming 
your illiteracy on culture matter?

Why government is disturbing again and again to tribals only? Whether they are 
not bribed by the big companies in Jharkhand during last few years?

Whether there is no scope of industry out side tribal areas?
Mines project are disturbing enviornment and climate,  an skilled person could 
earn any where why you have pain for their working in Jharkhand?
Broackery and intervention for displacement by third party is becoming a good 
business now many are involved in it let them do but we have freedom to express 
our views to protect enviornment and cultural identity of this state.
God luck
rajeev

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1. It is esay to exaggerate and give statistics of the tribals affected by 
various projects in the Country with a population exceeding 1.1 billion.
 
2. Where have these tribals gone? your posting gives the impression as if they 
have been exterminated or driven to wilderness?
They have either been rehabilitated in the alternate sites in the forest areas 
or in case of dams, near the downstream irrigated lands where they could carry 
out agriculture and they are given funds to construct their own houses and free 
land.
 
100% of the affected tribals in Gujarat Narmada project have been rehabilitated 
in this manner and are settled in various parts of the State.
 
It is the mischief makers like evangelists- Cedric- or Social activists Medha- 
who force these settled tribals to join agitation promising more benefits from 
Govt. as investigations revealed of the tribals joining her at the Dharna at 
Delhi.
 
3. Developments of large mineral based projects or harnessing water are 
naturally located in the unpopulated areas based on the project viabilities and 
availability of bulk inputs. One cannot put back development of the Country and 
its industries for the sake of preserving a few tribals living in stone age 
culture and it is the duty of any Govt. to bring these groups too to benefit 
the overall progress of the Country.
 
4. Indeed there are pessimists and vested interests like evangelists whose "raw 
material"- illiterate tribals for conversions, when they are provided 
alternative comforts and realise the folly of conversions once they are 
educated and live in a better society. This is another form of Communism where 
povery is encouraged and perpetualised for selfish interests though outwardly 
they pretend to work for the benefit of the poor and downtrodden
 
5. Development of an economy should ensure food, clothing, housing and working 
for all the individuals be it tribals or others. only by industrialisation and 
development of agricultural outputs so that infra-structure for education, 
health and recreation are available to these people. Traibals are also a part 
of the Society and they cannot be segregated and projects abandoned to allow 
them to live picking forest produce and live with hunger and penury.
 
6. Development is for everyone. If a project does not fulfil the promises of 
rehabilitation, provide promised jobs for the affected families or other 
preconditions, let the NGO-s take up the matter with concerned authorities 
rather that outright condemnation of the mining or other explorations and 
exploitations of natural resources for human development. Indeed there would be 
an inflow of skilled personnel from outside the area and you cannot insist such 
jobs for the locals.


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Rajeev Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Rajeev Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: Re: [ =>> Jharkhand <<= ] whose development? ??????
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 1:05 PM






 




 
 
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Dear friends
In the name of development big player of business family and politicians are 
causing to vanish the indegineous people, their land rights, sacred places and 
identity. It should be banned. Why only indiginious people will pay the cost of 
for mega projects in the name of development? We should stop it/ really it is 
not development it is distruction
regards
Rajeev Pandey
Social Upliftment Trust
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
charhi, Hazaribag, Jharkhand

 
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IMAGINE  THE entire population of the continent of Australia turned out of 
their homes- eighteen million people losing their lands, evicted from their 
houses. Deprived of livelihood and income, yhey face penury. As their families 
split up and spread out , their community bond crumble. cut off from their most 
vital resources, those uprooted are then robbed of their history, traditions 
and culture May be even forced to adopt an alien diet. Higher rate of disease 
and mortality pursue the dispossessed So do lower rate of earning and 
education. Also growing  joblessness, discrimination and inferior social 
status. oddly, it all happens in the name of DEVELOPMENT. and Victims are 
described as beneficiaries.

sound Too far-fetched even as fiction?

Its happened in INDIA, where in the period of 1951-90, over 21.6 million people 
suffered precisely that fate -displaced by just dams and canals alone. Add 
mining that has dispossessed 2.1 million and you have the population of 
Canada.Further, industries, thermal plants, sanctuaries and defense 
installations have thrown at least 2.4 million other human beings out of their 
homes. that's around 26 million INDIANS

these are bottom line figures. the government accepts national figure of over 
15 million (up to 1985) arising from 'development related displacement' thats 
the jargon for people losing their homes and lands....... ...

the draft of the governments national policy for rehabilitations admit that 
almost 75% of those displaced since 1951 were still awaiting rehabilitation ( 
after forty five years 'awaiting' seems a cruel term to use)

Tribals make up just 8% of our population yet as walater Fernades of Indian 
Social institute points out they account for more than 40% of the displaced 
persons of all projects and as the former vice chancellor of  Utkal university, 
Prof. L K Mahapatra, says, there  would be and equally big number of dalits and 
other land less among the displaced .......

.......
if the costs they bear are the price of development, then the rest of the 
'nation' is having one endless free lunch......

this text is extracted from:
Everybody Loves a good Drought
- P. Sainath
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"Ours is a battle not for wealth or for power.
It is a battle for freedom. It is a battle for the reclamation of human 
personality."
- Dr BR Ambedkar
~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~
 















      

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