Friends I feel the issue of conversion is totally personal, depending on the wish of a individual. Religious freedom providing opportunity to each religion that it can make propaganda about its goodness but harmony and diversity of the country should not be attacked.In the name of religion, spreading hetred against other religion should not be allowed. what is happening in orissa.....they are voilating all human normes in the name of stopping conversion....killing people and burning houses...destroying the thread of secularism and prosperity which was built after long endeavor..during freedom struggle.No body has right to destroy it as defender of religion. i think we have so maney burning issues with us which has to resolve soon ,instead of raising issue of conversion. we should leave it to the wish of a person. regards, ambarish rai president, lok sangharsh morcha
--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Arnab Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Arnab Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: a Muslim, Naseeruddin Shah??? ofcourse he is > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:34 AM > With due respect to all concerned, a certain amount of > ethnocentrism is a > part of group housing. Remember our villages were > physically structured by > caste, tribe, clan. I have once been refused housing > because I am a > fish-eating Bengali. I took it with a shrug. A certain dose > of ethnocentrism > is probably necessary to preserve cultural pluralism. It > may be wiser to > overlook such little quirks in group housing which imitates > our rural > housing structures. And it may not always make sense to > ride rough shod with > the shoes of liberal values over these little anachronisms. > Surely these > vegetarians, Chitpawans, North Calcutta Bengalis, and other > small identities > have their fair share of a right to survive as a cultural > group. And there > certainly are cosmopolitan houses in South Bombay and > Western suburbs which > do not have such restrictions. What does matter is that > vegetarians, > Brahmins, Muslims and others may be extending hegemony over > living space > beyong the preserves of these cultural ghettos. Check out > with any Muslim > professional looking for rented accommodation in Delhi and > you will know > what I am talking about. The day ethnocentrism gives way to > xenophobia we > are in trouble. Imagine, for example, a vegetarian Gujarati > South Bombay > inaccessible to non-Vegetarian Marathas, fish eating > Konkani Saraswats, > Kashmiris, Bengalis, up-country Muslims, beef eating Hindu > Malayalis. or a > North Calcutta inaccessible to one who does not listen to > Rabindranath > Tagore's songs. That is a frightening thought indeed. > Arnab Sen > Vasant Kunj > New Delhi > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:30 AM, jyotsna sharma > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand Forum <http://www.jharkhand.org.in> > > <http://egroups.com/list/Jharkhand> > > * * > > > > > > Naseeruddin shah is a muslim from UP.BUT DOES IT > REALLY MATTER? the fact is > > that its been happening in mumbai not only to muslims > but to people of > > different castes , region etc. > > > > --- On *Thu, 9/4/08, sharifa siddiqui > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > From: sharifa siddiqui > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: a Muslim, Naseeruddin Shah??? > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 8:05 PM > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand Forum <http://www.jharkhand.org.in/> > > <http://egroups.com/list/Jharkhand> > > * * > > > > > > > > Mr Onkar must know that Naseeruddin Shah is not a > Muslim, he is a Parsi. > > > > Morever with all due respects to the great actor, it > must be noted that the > > headline has added 'as a Muslim', whereas > nowhere in the body of the report > > do the three words reappear!! Appears to be a case of > the subeditor being > > carried away while giving the headline. > > > > Stereotyping cannot be wished away with denial. Not > only in our country, > > all minorities in all countries are stereotyped, > discriminated, many times > > unintentionally, sometimes intentionally. the solution > is to be aware of it > > and to avoid it > > > > Sharifa Siddiqui > > Asmita Resource Centre for Women > > Secunderabad > > > > *HAVE A NICE DAY * > > > > --- On *Thu, 9/4/08, onkar singh <onkaronkar4@ > yahoo.com>* wrote: > > > > From: onkar singh <onkaronkar4@ yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: Never felt discrimination as a Muslim, > says Naseeruddin Shah > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.co.in > > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:29 AM > > > > > > > > > > Jharkhand Forum <http://www.jharkhand.org.in/> > > <http://egroups.com/list/Jharkhand> > > * * > > > > > > Guys, > > > > This is a postive news dispelling stereotypes. > > > > I have a feeling Jharkhand Forum should be named as > Conversion Form (Anti > > or Pro) or minority vs. majority forum, as most of the > discussion happens > > around that subject. I totally support extremism of > free expression but i > > think we should have a platform name change for that. > Otherwise, it looks > > that conversion/non- conversion is the most serious > problem of Jharkhand. > > > > Thanks to the presence of extremist friend at our > right or left. > > > > I have to give a rethink on the issue of diversity > which i used to consider > > an asset till date. > > > > Regards, > > Onkar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://wowmails. com/never- felt-discriminat ion-as-a- > muslim-says- > > naseeruddin- sha-t5071. > html<http://wowmails.com/never-felt-discrimination-as-a-muslim-says-naseeruddin-sha-t5071.html> > > Never felt discrimination as a Muslim, says > Naseeruddin Sha New Delhi, > > (IANS) Acclaimed actor Naseeruddin Shah Wednesday said > he did not agree with > > Shabana Azmi's view that Muslims were > discriminated against in India and > > added that he had never faced any such problem. > > > > > > "I have never felt any discrimination. I have > never been refused housing in > > Bombay. I have lived there in all kinds of conditions > from a paying guest, > > sharing with six people to having two apartments of my > own. I have never had > > these problems. I don't deny that these problems > exist, but I don't think > > that Muslims are exclusively the victims," Shah > said. > > > > "The less we nurse this persecution thing, the > better it will be," Shah > > told NDTV news channel on its programme "India 60 > Minutes". > > > > He added: "I think that when the occasion arises, > anyone is discriminated > > against. I can cite instances when Hindus have been > discriminated against; > > forget about Christians, Sikhs, Parsis and so > on." > > > > Shabana last week told another news channel that > Muslims were often treated > > as second-class citizens. She said: "I cannot get > a house in Mumbai. I > > wanted to buy a flat in Mumbai and it wasn't given > to me because I was a > > Muslim, and I read the same about Saif (Ali > Khan)." > > > > "Now, I mean, if Javed Akhtar and Shabana Azmi > cannot get a flat in Mumbai > > because they are Muslims, then what are we talking > about?" said Azmi. > >
