Hi George,

Bear in mind that if Java 9 + Jigsaw actually *breaks* OSGi in any way, it 
would have to be a considered a non-backwards-compatible release of Java, since 
OSGi does nothing that could be considered non-standard or illegal for a Java 
program to do. I agree this would be perverse, as many other valid Java 
programs (e.g. JavaEE application servers) would likely be broken as well.

However, “not breaking” is rather a low bar… lower than that set by the 
previous revisions of the requirements which demanded some form of real 
interoperability between the module systems.

Neil




On 5 August 2014 at 10:02:51, Marrows, George A (GE Energy Management) 
([email protected]) wrote:

I'm certainly keen to see interoperability between the two solutions. It would 
be perverse for Jigsaw to introduce fundamental problems for OSGi, which is 
after all the current de facto standard Java module system.  

(Backgound: we are using OSGi to help structure our port of General Electic's 
Smallworld product line to the JVM. We are intending to map Smallworld's own 
module system, which is specific to the Magik programming language, to OSGi 
bundles and probably ultimately Jigsaw modules. 
http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/12/magik-jvm-port )  

Yours,  
George  

-----Original Message-----  
From: jigsaw-dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neil 
Bartlett  
Sent: 30 July 2014 12:38  
To: [email protected]  
Subject: Jigsaw/OSGi interoperability requirements  

Hello,  

I asked the following question at the beginning of July when the re-relaunch of 
Jigsaw was announced, but didn’t get a response. Probably it was 
unintentionally overlooked with all the other traffic, but I would very much 
appreciate an answer so I’ll ask again:  

The previous draft requirements dated 19 April 2011 (“Draft 12”) stated the 
following with respect to OSGi: “It must be demonstrated by prototype to be 
feasible to modify an OSGi micro-kernel such that OSGi bundles running in that 
kernel can depend upon Java modules. The kernel must be able to load Java 
modules directly and resolve them using its own resolver, except for core 
system modules. Core system modules can only be loaded using the module 
system’s reification API.”  

Can you confirm that this requirement will still apply in the new phase, or has 
it been deliberately dropped?  

Regards,  
Neil   


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