On 3/9/2016 10:36 AM, Paul Benedict wrote:
 From the doc:
"If a package is defined in both a named module and the unnamed module then
the package in the unnamed module is ignored. This preserves reliable
configuration even in the face of the chaos of the class path, ensuring
that every module still reads at most one module defining a given package.
If, in our example above, a JAR file on the class path contains a class
file named com/foo/bar/alpha/AlphaFactory.class then that file will never
be loaded, since the com.foo.bar.alpha package is exported by the
com.foo.bar module."

I would like some clarification. Correct me if wrong, but I think this
entire paragraph is really meant to be about the perspective from a
modularized JAR? If a module has package A, and the unnamed module has
package A, then of course the module's package A should win.

However, if it is meant to be absolute language, then I disagree.

The unnamed module should be coherent among itself. If the unnamed module
has package B and relies on classes from package A, it should still be able
to see its own package A. I don't think modules should be able to impact
how the unnamed module sees itself. That's a surprising situation.

The unnamed module is not a root module during resolution. If your main class is in the unnamed module (i.e. you did java -jar MyApp.jar rather than java -m MyApp), then the module graph is created by resolving various root modules (what are they? separate discussion) and only then is the unnamed module hooked up to read every module in the graph.

Hope we're OK so far.

If some named module in the graph exports package A (more than one module exporting A? separate discussion), then since the unnamed module reads that named module, the unnamed module will access A.* types from that named module.

It's hard to imagine the unnamed module NOT accessing A.* types from that named module. Primarily, we need to avoid a split package situation where code in the unnamed module sometimes accesses A.* types from the named module and sometimes from the unnamed module.

You might say, OK, let code in the unnamed module exclusively access A.* in the unnamed module rather than exclusively access A.* in the named module. Then you have two problems:

1. There are issues for named modules in the same class loader as the unnamed module -- such named modules MUST get A.* from the named module rather than the unnamed module, and the class loading mechanism is incapable of switching based on accessor. It'll be common for named modules to exist in the same class loader as the unnamed module, as modular JARs on the modulepath and non-modular JARs on the classpath all end up in the application class loader (modular JARs as named modules; non-modular JARs jointly as the unnamed module).

2. While the module system is sure that package A exists in the named module, how would the module system possibly know that package A exists in the unnamed module? Scanning every class file in every non-modular JAR on the classpath at startup sounds bad.

Alex

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