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Tomonari Yamashita commented on KAFKA-15259:
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Hi [~mjsax], 
Thank you. 
I believe that even "execute_once" would need to be able to use "continue".  As 
a use case, if a non-retriable exception such as RecordTooLargeException occurs 
during production, we would need to have the option of removing such a source 
message and continuing the processing even if "execute_once" is used. In other 
words, a situation where a dead letter queue(1) is needed (even if 
"execute_once" is used).

Many non-Kafka MQs( and Kafka Connect) have a dead letter queue feature, and it 
can be combined with "execute_once". However, Kafka and Kafka Streams do not 
have a dead letter queue feature, but instead Kafka Streams has 
ProductionExceptionHandler and ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE, if 
my understanding is correct. 

We actually had implemented a custom implementation of dead letter queue in 
ProductionExceptionHandler with ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE, 
however, it no longer works with the latest version(3.5.1) of Kafka Streams. 
Our additional testing revealed that "continue" worked in Kafka Streams 3.1.2, 
but no longer works since Kafka Streams 3.2.0, as rollback occurs. 

For this reason, I believe that "execute_once" and "continue" should be 
available individually and in combination, and this behavior is a bug 
introduced since Kafka Streams 3.2.0. 
But if that is already considered expected behavior due to specification 
changes etc, it would be necessary to provide another feature that allows 
additional implementations such as a dead letter queue.

(1) Dead Letter Channel
    
https://www.enterpriseintegrationpatterns.com/patterns/messaging/DeadLetterChannel.html

> Kafka Streams does not continue processing due to rollback despite 
> ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE if using execute_once
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-15259
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15259
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: streams
>    Affects Versions: 3.5.1
>            Reporter: Tomonari Yamashita
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: Reproducer.java, app_at_least_once.log, 
> app_exactly_once.log
>
>
> [Problem]
>  - Kafka Streams does not continue processing due to rollback despite 
> ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE if using execute_once.
>  -- "CONTINUE will signal that Streams should ignore the issue and continue 
> processing"(1), so Kafka Streams should continue processing even if using 
> execute_once when ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE used.
>  -- However, if using execute_once, Kafka Streams does not continue 
> processing due to rollback despite 
> ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE. And the client will be shut down 
> as the default behavior(StreamThreadExceptionResponse.SHUTDOWN_CLIENT) 
> [Environment]
>  - Kafka Streams 3.5.1
> [Reproduction procedure]
>  # Create "input-topic" topic and "output-topic"
>  # Put several messages on "input-topic"
>  # Execute a simple Kafka streams program that transfers too large messages 
> from "input-topic" to "output-topic" with execute_once and returns 
> ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE when an exception occurs in the 
> producer. Please refer to the reproducer program (attached file: 
> Reproducer.java).
>  # ==> However, Kafka Streams does not continue processing due to rollback 
> despite ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE. And the stream thread 
> shutdown as the default 
> behavior(StreamThreadExceptionResponse.SHUTDOWN_CLIENT) (2). Please refer to 
> the debug log (attached file: app_exactly_once.log).
>  ## My excepted behavior is that Kafka Streams should continue processing 
> even if using execute_once. when ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE 
> used.
> [As far as my investigation]
>  - FYI, if using at_least_once instead of execute_once, Kafka Streams 
> continue processing without rollback when 
> ProductionExceptionHandlerResponse.CONTINUE is used. Please refer to the 
> debug log (attached file: app_at_least_once.log).
> (1) CONFIGURING A STREAMS APPLICATION > default.production.exception.handler
>  - 
> [https://kafka.apache.org/35/documentation/streams/developer-guide/config-streams.html#default-production-exception-handler]
> (2) Transaction abort and shutdown occur
> {code:java}
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG KafkaProducer:1073 - [Producer 
> clientId=java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1-0_0-producer,
>  transactionalId=java-kafka-streams-0_0] Exception occurred during message 
> send:
> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The message is 
> 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which is the 
> value of the max.request.size configuration.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 ERROR RecordCollectorImpl:322 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> stream-task [0_0] Error encountered sending record to topic output-topic for 
> task 0_0 due to:
> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The message is 
> 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which is the 
> value of the max.request.size configuration.
> Exception handler choose to CONTINUE processing in spite of this error but 
> written offsets would not be recorded.
> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The message is 
> 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which is the 
> value of the max.request.size configuration.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  TransactionManager:393 - [Producer 
> clientId=java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1-0_0-producer,
>  transactionalId=java-kafka-streams-0_0] Transiting to abortable error state 
> due to org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The message is 
> 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which is the 
> value of the max.request.size configuration.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG TransactionManager:986 - [Producer 
> clientId=java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1-0_0-producer,
>  transactionalId=java-kafka-streams-0_0] Transition from state IN_TRANSACTION 
> to error state ABORTABLE_ERROR
> org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The message is 
> 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which is the 
> value of the max.request.size configuration.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG StreamThread:825 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Processed 1 records with 1 iterations; invoking punctuators if necessary
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG StreamThread:837 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 0 
> punctuators ran.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG StreamThread:1117 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Committing all active tasks [0_0] and standby tasks [] since 273ms has 
> elapsed (commit interval is 100ms)
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG RecordCollectorImpl:345 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> stream-task [0_0] Flushing record collector
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG StreamTask:419 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] task 
> [0_0] Prepared RUNNING task for committing
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG TaskExecutor:176 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Committing task offsets {0_0={input-topic-0=OffsetAndMetadata{offset=629, 
> leaderEpoch=null, metadata='AgAAAYmSGuLv'}}}
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 ERROR KafkaStreams:537 - stream-client 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d] Encountered the 
> following exception during processing and the registered exception handler 
> opted to SHUTDOWN_CLIENT. The streams client is going to shut down now. 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.errors.StreamsException: Error encountered trying to 
> commit a transaction [stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> stream-task [0_0]]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamsProducer.commitTransaction(StreamsProducer.java:313)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.TaskExecutor.commitOffsetsOrTransaction(TaskExecutor.java:186)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.TaskExecutor.commitTasksAndMaybeUpdateCommittableOffsets(TaskExecutor.java:154)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.TaskManager.commitTasksAndMaybeUpdateCommittableOffsets(TaskManager.java:1678)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.TaskManager.commit(TaskManager.java:1646)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamThread.maybeCommit(StreamThread.java:1121)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamThread.runOnce(StreamThread.java:840)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamThread.runLoop(StreamThread.java:617)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamThread.run(StreamThread.java:579)
>  [kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
> Caused by: org.apache.kafka.common.KafkaException: Cannot execute 
> transactional method because we are in an error state
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.clients.producer.internals.TransactionManager.maybeFailWithError(TransactionManager.java:1010)
>  ~[kafka-clients-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.clients.producer.internals.TransactionManager.sendOffsetsToTransaction(TransactionManager.java:306)
>  ~[kafka-clients-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.clients.producer.KafkaProducer.sendOffsetsToTransaction(KafkaProducer.java:757)
>  ~[kafka-clients-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       at 
> org.apache.kafka.streams.processor.internals.StreamsProducer.commitTransaction(StreamsProducer.java:300)
>  ~[kafka-streams-3.5.1.jar:?]
>       ... 8 more
> Caused by: org.apache.kafka.common.errors.RecordTooLargeException: The 
> message is 11000088 bytes when serialized which is larger than 1048576, which 
> is the value of the max.request.size configuration.
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  KafkaStreams:340 - stream-client 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d] State transition 
> from RUNNING to PENDING_ERROR
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  StreamThread:239 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> State transition from RUNNING to PENDING_SHUTDOWN
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  StreamThread:1182 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Shutting down unclean
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  StreamThread:1168 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Informed to shut down
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG StreamThread:224 - stream-thread 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1] 
> Ignoring request to transit from PENDING_SHUTDOWN to PENDING_SHUTDOWN: only 
> DEAD state is a valid next state
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 INFO  KafkaStreams:1367 - stream-client 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d] Shutting down 1 
> stream threads
> 2023-07-26 21:27:19 DEBUG KafkaStreams:1374 - stream-client 
> [java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d] Shutdown 
> java-kafka-streams-e3187cf9-5337-4155-a7cd-fd4e426b889d-StreamThread-1 
> complete
> {code}



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